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In Reply to: RE: The Atom Bomb wasn't ready yet posted by jamesgarvin on June 25, 2007 at 15:39:27
And what does The United States gain by beating the Soviets in this war you envision? We had no important interest there.
The pie divison in eastern Europe was a done deal by the time of Potsdam anyway (while we were still fighting the Japanese). The Russians were boss in the territories they were in and that was that.
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"And what does The United States gain by beating the Soviets in this war you envision? We had no important interest there."
The same interest that caused us to commit numerous troops and resources in fighting Germany, which never attacked the U.S. Perhaps you also believe that the U.S. had no interest in figthing Germany. Just defeat Japan, and stop. If we had an interest in preventing tyranny and aggression from one country to another when Germany was the culprit, we also had the same interest when the Soviets attempted to do the same thing. Unless you believe that Stalin's massacre of, and stripping the rights from, his own people and those of the Eastern Block countries was justified whereas Hitler's was not. Given Stalin's treatment of his own people prior to WWII, the U.S. had ample notice of his behavior.
And I do not envision a war with the S.U. Given that Stalin's interest was occupation, not liberation, which conflicted with the other allies' interests, the U.S. should have held have maintained their ground that the war was not fought so that any of the allies could enrich themselves that Hitler's victims expense. This does not involve invading the S.U. If Stalin was as aggressive, and potent, as you assert, he would not have signed a treaty with Hitler to avoid a fight - he would simply have taken the fight to Hitler. I submit that had the other allies stuck together, convinced the S.U. that countries like Poland, East Germany, and the other Eastern Block Countries were not for barter, and used the threat of the atom bomb, the S.U. may have backed down, as it obviously did with a very tenacious enemy in Japan, things may have been different and better in Europe for millions of people.
The same unwillingness to confront the S.U. was the same unwillingness to confront Hitler, and we know what happened there.
I am curious as to what interest we had in fighting Germany, and how it differs in out interests following the WWII?
I've always wondered about that. Also, seeing as how Stalin's brutal murders and starvations of thirty or forty million preceded Hitler's more modest activity, why were we on *his* side? Not to mention that Stalin soon became our implacable enemy. Did Dean Acheson foresee nothing of this?
"Things may have been different and better in Europe for millions of people." No kidding. (Except, make that "tens of millions".) Stalin apologists refuse to look at such circumstances.
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... I would venture that entry into the war finally lifted the US economy out of the depression.
The lend-lease agreements were in place or would be as soon as the USA came to the table.
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