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We'll just have to disagree. Your points about Herzog's

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tinear

In Reply to: RE: It's just not the same thing. posted by sjb on October 13, 2007 at 22:41:45

seeking approval I also take issue with: he's got too much integrity. Seeking approval and having a family decide to participate w/out approval authority are different. Very.
It remains hard for me to gather a lot of interest in this "kid" who actually was a twenty-something man at the time of his rather silly death. Hell, he graduated from Emory, right?
Anyhow, I'll see it, as earlier noted, if for no other reason than to see if Penn actually has learned anything in his latest vanity project.
I wish he and DeNiro would stay in front of the camera and quit wasting our time behind it.

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RE: We'll just have to disagree. Your points about Herzog's - sjb 07:31:45 10/14/07 (2)
Okay, so you apparently believe their participation has probably watered down the telling of the story. As a fan of the book and now a fan of the movie I don't believe it did... or if it did, it didn't negatively effect the films impact on me.

One thing's for sure... SP didn't invent girlfriends or love stories or rescue attempts or reams of dialogue that were pure specualtion... or make the parents heroic or evil, etc., etc. As Clark noted there are a few minutes of the film that are a bit too epic (and yet his was, in its way, an epic journey in regards to the sights he saw and the experiences he had) but for me that was easily forgiven for getting the feeling so right.

As a side note... that you - without reading the book or seeing the film - have turned the fact that the family was involved (which was a prerequisite to get the rights of the book) into a lack of integrity on SP's part is just weird.

"You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
- Steve, for years I worked as a journalist, interviewing some - tinear 17:59:59 10/14/07 (1)
  fairly famous people. Several times, I was asked, previous to the interview, if I'd allow the subject or his minion to view the article before publication.
  Each time, I told them, firmly, "no."
  That's the way I was trained by a grizzled, old news editor.
  I'd apply the same high standards to "art."
  Don't put words in my mouth, please. I am not familiar with Penn's integrity.
  - Hmmmm? - sjb 20:24:38 10/14/07 (0)
    About putting "words in your mouth"... you said flat out that Herzog has too much integrity to get the kind of permissionn/blessings/"approval" that Penn did.
    
    It sure seems that by default you're saying SP was somehow lacking in that integrity.
    
    I still think that's weird (as is the idea that you know what Herzog has or hasn't done in that regard) but the weirdest thing is you're saying that you think art should be held to journalistic standards.
    
    Anyway... it's a silly argument... and even with all the biases your piling up against it I'll be curious to hear what you think of the film.
    
    "You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."

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