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Maybe.I'm not a fan of "westerns" but this film transcends the genre by combing historical narration, flashbacks, character development, and Oscar performances from some of the cast.
Let's just say the actor in the Affleck family may not be Ben. Casey turned in a brilliantly nuanced performance as Robert Ford (the coward) while Pitt was stood out as the weakest link with his usual "non-nuanced" performance. All the characters were spot-on in what is seemingly an "actor's" movie filled with tight facial shots galore.
Although the film is nearly three hours it moves painlessly along until the undoing of the coward, Bob Ford.
The history of the James Gang was certainly interesting in the fact that most of it was made up to sell dime novels. Bob Ford, as a child, became tangled in the fantasy of being a James "ganger" but proved to strange and odd to ever make the grade. We also see an affable Jesse who loves his wife and kids but has no problem "dispatching" those he doesn't trust.
The film has an "artsy" atmosphere and does (IMO) for westerns what The Thin Red Line did for war movies.
Must see.
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Complicit Constapo Talibangelical since MMIII
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Travolta as a general?
It hurt watching him try to act like one.
The dialogue in that film had so many ringers it was pathetic.
Apocalypse Now it ain't.
I will say the scenes with that babe in the house were sensual.
Couldn't agree more. I just can't get into it at all after trying several times.
I've tried watching it many times and ALWAYS tire of the incessant cinema trickery....Marlon Brando was overpaid, overweight and completely useless in the film....I could never understand what was SOOOO maniacal about his character....seemed like a big, fat pussy to me...... To be honest though...outside of The Godfather and maybe The Outsiders...FFC is NOT a very prolific filmmaker and has hung his hat on just a few films.....hardly a legend as compared to a Willie Wyler or John Ford....
IMHO it is one of the best films aever made, especially the "Redux" version, which, though longer, actually flows better.
...Its longer, has more chapters -- almost like reading an epic. Love the restored bunny scenes that reveal even more levels of delusion. More chapters make this film work.
Coppola 's film comes to mind as one, if not the first, major post Vietnam war statement with teeth.
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Complicit Constapo Talibangelical since MMIII
For me, the "acting" by the bunnies worked much in the same way Ryan O'Neal's casting in "Barry Lyndon" somehow fit -- less acting, more about being: blank, or kooky, or just illfitting in context.
good producers are a directors best friend.
I'd agree that the film already is indulgent as hell.
Someone needed to pimp slip Hopper at some point to straighten him up. At least take away his candy for a few hours...
Assuming that he was miscast, have you considered the possibility that it was intentional?
Rod
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Complicit Constapo Talibangelical since MMIII
I've been in the military. I do not see how that changes anything. But then, I have never liked Travolta.
best HS friend, and a guy who's a retired general lives a couple of streets away.
Travolta ain't no general, okay?
Nolte was old-line and passed over. It was WWII and anything could happen. Use your brain.
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Complicit Constapo Talibangelical since MMIII
...constitutes proof of your own knowledge of how all generals comport themselves? I've interviewed a large handful of them and they are as different as you and me. There isn't a stereotype that holds up.I don't remember Travolta's performance and I'm not supporting it. I just found it quite unconvincing that encountering two generals in your life makes you an expert in "generalness."
(Ooops...I didn't realize I was replying to Tinear before submitting the message. This thread ends here for me.)
harboring a grudge or any such nonsense, are you?
Anyhow, seeing as you didn't delete the message, I'll guess your post had a small tongue-in-cheek aspect.
Generals do have something in common: they're used to ordering large groups of people around and they have a superior bearing w/out posturing, which exactly is what Travolta did. He quite obviously was acting the way he thought such a powerful figure would act, overdoing it as any poor actor would.
We've all had too much opportunity to see many generals on television and not one bore any similarity to the Travolta caricature.
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