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In Reply to: RE: Best or most popular? Corliss should know better. Just posted by Analog Scott on December 15, 2007 at 23:18:48
"Many adults found a great deal in Schindler's List."
Including every fascist. By portraying the fascists as drooling retards and perverts, the real fascists of the world have been exonerated. If fascists are drooling retards and perverts, nobody is a fascist. Schindler's List is the movie the fascist dreamt of but couldn't imagine ever being made.
By adult I mean mentally adult. By adult I mean people who do not think reading is faggy. I mean people who do not laugh when they hear the word "Uranus." You know, adults.
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> > "Many adults found a great deal in Schindler's List."> >
> Including every fascist.>
Which fascists have expressed satisfaction with schindler's List? Do you have some facts to support this assertion?
> By portraying the fascists as drooling retards and perverts,>
Who was portrayed as a "drooling retard and pervert?"
> the real fascists of the world have been exonerated.>
They have? How so? How on earth does Schilder's List "exonerate" teh Nazis and their atrocities during the holocaust?
> If fascists are drooling retards and perverts, nobody is a fascist.>
You aren't making any sense here. The Nazis were clearly portrayed as the fasctists and murderers that they were.
> Schindler's List is the movie the fascist dreamt of but couldn't imagine ever being made.>
Can you offer any quotes from known fascists to support this assertion?
> By adult I mean mentally adult. By adult I mean people who do not think reading is faggy. I mean people who do not laugh when they hear the word "Uranus." You know, adults.>
I know. You mean pretentious ass holes like yourself with no sense of humor. The sphere of adulthood extends way beyond your limited scope.
If you portray fascists as the Three Stooges with signs that say "Kick Me" on their backs and it is NOT a comedy, you are doing a disservice. And it exonerates the real fascists, like Le Pen and Giuliani.
Indeed, I see no fun in that. Mel Brooks' The Producers is fun.
"You mean pretentious ass holes like yourself with no sense of humor. The sphere of adulthood extends way beyond your limited scope."
My scope is wide, alright. Being an adult means to be able to make fun of yourself and to be silly. But it does not include wasting time on third-rate movies like Schindler's List. The movie doesn't have a single redeeming quality.
when asked for support for your bizarre assertions you offer nothing. Anyone can get on soap box and call something dumb with no apparent reason. You certainly are entitled to your opinions about the quality of the movie but as it stands you come off as a bit of a nut. You may even find a few people that agree with you on this one. It is a big world. But by and large I think you are completely out to lunch on this one.
I wish I were.
We saw what happened at Abu Ghraib after the enemy--the "Islamofascist"--had been dehumanized.
Hitler may have hade some serious personality disorder or whatever. But Hitler and his followers were not stir crazy madmen. They were mostly like you and I. Some where more driven and calculated. Others were just cowards--followers. The Africans welcomed the Germans because they treated them better than the British did.
I even go so far as to put some of the blame for Abu Ghraib on Spielberg. Actions have consequences. I believe in responsibility and accountability. Ignorance is not a defense.
What did the Abu Ghraib scandal bring? A ban on cell phone cameras! If they had had cell phone cameras in Nazi Germany, 6 million Jews might have been saved. It wasn't like politicians in Europe and America were oblivious. They just couldn't believe what they heard.
You have now piled what appears to be some sort of really nutty theory that speilberg is to some degree to blame for attrocities against Arabs in Iraq by U.S. soldiers on top of your wild assertions. You still offer nothing to support your beliefs. I'd have to put your views on Schindler's List in the same catagory as ufology. But ufology does have a pretty big following. I think you are in very small company.
Spielberg made a conscious decision to portray the Nazis like characters out of Bloodsucking Freaks. How many real people do you know that are like that? Probably nobody. Hence, there are no Nazis. That's one point.
The second point is that the movie dehumanizes the enemy.
Forget the ideology. How does Schindler's List differ from the dehumanization of Jews in Der Ewige Jude?
Why would you hold Spielberg to different standard than that of the director of Der Ewige Jude? And isn't that to short-sell Spielberg?
Cinema is propaganda.
> Spielberg made a conscious decision to portray the Nazis like characters out of Bloodsucking Freaks.>
Really? He told you this? Looks like you are just making up more crap to support your paranoid dellusions.
> How many real people do you know that are like that?>
Like what? Like how Spielberg portrayed the Nazis our how you imagine he portrayed the Nazis? There is a pretty huge disconnect between the two. Either way I must confess, I don't know many people who would proactively participate in the killing of 6 million people based on their heritage.
> Probably nobody. Hence, there are no Nazis. That's one point.>
A silly point at that. I don't know anyone as sociopathic as Hitler. Does that mean I should believe Hitler never existed? Your logic is nothing short of bizzarre.
> The second point is that the movie dehumanizes the enemy.>
Not the Schindler's list I saw.
> Forget the ideology. How does Schindler's List differ from the dehumanization of Jews in Der Ewige Jude?
Why would you hold Spielberg to different standard than that of the director of Der Ewige Jude? And isn't that to short-sell Spielberg?.>
didn't see Der Ewge Jude. I don't cut Spielberg any special slack. I think your opinions of schindler's list is more about your baggage than Spielberg's film.
> Cinema is propaganda.>
If you are paranoid.
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