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I don't understand how Ebert could rank this as the best movie of 2007 when in my opinion it shouldn't even be in his top ten. It is certainly not in mine.
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Other than liking the "sound" of your own "voice" I don't understand the point of these kind of posts, of which there are many. There is no movie and there will never be a movie, that everyone agrees is a certain level of good.
Maybe start with telling us what you didn't like about it, how you would have done things differently, if it all?
I, on the other hand, loved it. Who cares?
This is a film discussion group and the point is that I disagreed with Ebert. I did enjoy the film but felt that there were many better movies released in 29007 and since I had posted Ebert's Top Ten below I thought I would add my two cents to say I disagreed with him that this was the best film of the year. I'm glad you loved it.
...amazing script and female lead.
Makes "Knocked Up" seem juvenile.
It's certainly on MY top 10 list.
Is that telepathy?
...on DVD.
Ebert gave it a "Special Jury Prize" in his Top 10 of 2007.
While I enjoyed it, especially the music, I wouldn't give it any prizes.
...what I like other people don't. I like "modern" and contemporary classical music. I sometimes think I share that preference with about 22 other people worldwide. Differences in temperament and interest are what make the world so diverse!
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Actually, twenty-four, since I have a close friend who is a musician and teacher who also loves contemporary classical music. We're picky - the list doesn't include Phillip Glass but does include John Corigliano, Peter Mennin, John Adams and Jennifer Higdon.
OTOH, I cant say I prefer contemporary composers over Bach or Purcell or Brahms or Vaughn-Willimas or Bartok. Good music is good music. So maybe you are down to 22.
Yes, life does seem to be that way when it comes to personal taste.
As far as movies go, I respect Ebert for the passion he brings to movie watching and his enthusiasm for the medium. But I often disagree with him. I certainly don't like most blockbusters. so I'm out od sorts with popular movie tatses, but that's true for most popular culture. Evert is one critic with a higher tolerance for commercial/cimplex fodder than other critics. But the man loves movies.
I'm not an elitist, BTW, I just have good taste. Of course ;-)
at least that's what some people tell me when they notice my enjoyment of Cage, Harrison, Meredith Monk, Alvin Curran, Glass and others. They're probably right but damn, those people do write good music! :-)
I suspect my taste in movies is much worse since it includes a lot of trite action, scifi and horror films with no socially redeeming features whatsoever.
I can even mix the films and music by watching Todd Browning's 1930's "Dracula" with the Philip Glass soundtrack performed by the Kronos Quartet.
David Aiken
taste is taste. I think people tend to mix up the idea of taste with an appreciation of excellence. For instance you like horror and scifi. That isn't bad taste that is your taste. The question is do you appreciate the difference between the excellent horror and scifi and the schlock. I hate opera. That is my taste. Nothing bad or good about it. It doesn't reflect on the reletive quality of any given opera. But an opera lover with the ability to discern quality can tell you the differences between good opera and bad opera. What I am trying to say is excellence and ability to appreciate it is independent of personal taste.
Sort of, via his alternate opera/soundtrack to Cocteau's Beauty & The Beast. Now THERE's a movie.
LOL, ain't it a stitch...thirty - forty years on these composers still provoke fear and/or loathing in the general music lover's breat.
The Dracula to a Glass quartet could be fun, actually, although Freaks is my all-time fave Browning film.
To be perfectly honest, I haven't been in love with much by Glass since his violin concerto but, oddly enough, I think he's a brilliant and effective film composer. Cage has acquired "grand old man" status now - isn't it amusing? I first became familiar with him through his pieces for choreographer/partner Merce Cunningham. Have you seen Meredith perform her pieces? Not to be missed, although I don't know if she does it anymore. I saw her back in the 70s and early 80s. Lou Harrison and Curran? Are you a New Yorker?
BTW, the Philip Glass Appreciation Society on -line fan club is headquartered just down the road from me in Carmel, IN. Really.
Seriously, if you can concenrtate on NY downtown minimalism & other musical iconoclasts try some horror/scifi with "redeeming" qualities: Devil's Backbone, Pan's Labyrinth, Children of Men etc.
I have the DVD Audio disk of Glass's Koyaanisqatsi and CD of Symphony # 2 , and enjoy them both. I think the # 2 disk has a saxaphone piece on it, which I also like.
I used to chat with Jennifer Higdon on another board all the time, and purchsed one of her disks. It is gathering dust. I think it was one of her first.
I recently saw Jeffrey Biegel, and enjoyed it very much. He played a Liebermann piece , and later in 2008, he will be playing Keith Emerson's Piano Concerto in selected cities, as he is a friend of Keith's.
Are you familiar with Biegel?
...in, of all places, Muncie IN. Isn't he the pianist who put together the commission of Lowell Liebermann's 3rd Piano COncerto? Liebermann is a very "accessible" modern composer and very adept at the concerto form. Very entertaining, not afriad of big themes and devlopment. His 2nd concerto brought down the house a couple years ago here in Indy. I bet you heard the new 3rd you lucky dog.
I have a certain appreciation for Glass - though I find him a very mixed bag. I tend to prefer John Adams' brand of minimalism.
I'm not fmailiar with Higdon's early work. I have heard her large orchestral works - Blue Cathedral, City Scape and Concerto For Orchestra - live in concert with the local band. Dust off that CD, she is the real deal. Blue Cathedral was pretty special.
..with the Hartford Symphony Orchestra.
Fantastic.
Believe it or not, I only got interested in him because he said he was a friend of Emerson's. There were plans for him and Emerson toperform on the same bill, Biegel doing the Emerson Concerto ,and Emerson playing a new adaptation of a Ginestera piece. I don't see that happening, but Biegel will play Emerson with Champaign / Urbana Symphony in Illinois in April, I believe.
That's just a bit far from connecticut for a road trip.
I will dust off the Higdon disk. I remember her joking thatthe first cut on the disk is enough to drive a cat crazy , or something to that effect.
I have been thinking about getting Blue Cathedral, maybe I will.
Thanks
Maybe I will check it out, if I'm not working. Some folks that used to play in the Indianapolis Chamber Orchestra are teaching over at U of I. I haven't seen Keith Emerson in...let's just say it's been a looooong time ;-)
Blue Cathedral - go for it. Also check out Lowell Liebermann on disc.
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