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What a clunker. Good acting, but ham fisted directing and script. The boy is terrible, he substitutes walking around with an open mouth for acting\emoting.
He watches while the bad guy sneaks up and shoots his father in the back multiple times, but stands up to make himself an easy target to shoo the cattle. And then in response to his father being shot in the back yells "Pa!" or "Dad" or some nonsense and comes running. Crowe for no apparent reason tries to escape from his own men who are shooting to free him when he could just run right or left and get away. Or just sit and let his captor get shot, and he walk away. Or jump out the window.
3 Indians?
And Crowe gets on the train voluntarily .
And they out shoot 200 men with vantage points to make it to the train....
Let me tell you a bad rule of life: it takes one bullet to kill a good guy, i.e. a cop, and bad guys get hit with a dozen and live.
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But Crowe's method of escape was to insure the boy would collect his dad's delivery fee.
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impassioned surrogate father....... N please/
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"You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
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played by a major actor that just wouldn't let it ride: he had to have some wonderful characteristics, too.
Ah, for the old days when evil could be just... evil.
Henry Fonda in the Leone film was content just to be bad. Crowe is a wussie.
Tin, the turnabout is in the book.
It's in the script.
That's the way the actor played it. That's the way the director wanted it.
This is not OUATITW. You may not like or buy 3:10 to Yuma but don't blame it on Crowe wanting to whitewash his character.
Be careful of putting your own hobbyhorse onto Crowe. Crowe may be guilty of much but not of this particular sin. If you must lay blame lay it on the right sinner
For all Crowe's off camera shennenigans and massive ego, he generally plays it straight with scripts and is not known for being overly protective of his characters in that way - he's possessive of his roles and he's certainly script conscious but he's generally not at all worried about looking pretty or being a nice guy on the screen.
You may be thinking of Mel Gibson, who demanded his dark character in 1999's Payback be given redeeming qualities. Gibson and writer/director Brian Helgeland famously clashed bigtime over it. The star got Payback taken away from Helgeland, much to the movie's detriment. (Helgeland was fired the week after he won an Oscar for LA Confidential.) Payback was eventually recut/restored/re-edited by the director in 2006.
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And totally OT, I loved Alan Tuddyk's character in 3:10 to Yuma.
That's what real psychopaths do, they don't develop a warm fuzzy feeling for a boy who looks like a girl and keeps his mouth open.
You both specifically mentioned Crow... as if he chose to play a psycho who also was capable of feeling and/or doing good. If you just meant the character that's a different story... I have no problem with a character who's multi-faceted and complex and could go either way (kill you without a second thought or help you) depending on how he feels in the moment. If you guys do that's certainly your prerogative.
I thought he played that character almost perfectly... the level of confidence and charm seemed spot on. He decided to make sure the kid got the dough because he respected the kids courage and the fathers courage AND because he was tired of his crew and liked the challenge of escaping from the prison train and/or prison.
There's an obvious tongue in cheek-ness to the character that made it fun... it's not supposed to be anything like Fonda in the SL film. Why would anyone want their psycho's to all be played the same way?
"You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
This movie isn't trying to be OATITW, nor did Crowe write the script or direct himself!
I actually thought Crowe was having a lot more fun (and was thus much more fun to watch) with this baddie than he was with his cop role in American Gangster.
Actors work with the material at hand.
And, again, what happens at the end isn't a surprise if one has been paying attention.
Also there's a certain kind of evil, mixed with some sense of goodness or rightness... but never knowing which will win the day, that can be very unsettling.
"You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
point aside, a cold-blooded recitation of events hardly bears comparison to a film, does it? Or are the many creative artists involved in a film, from the director on down (or sideways), just reporters (that always have biases, too...)?
Read "Lolita" (if you can...) and see Kubrick's version. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
But each praised as a classic.
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