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Really. I'll bet over 50% of the people watching were confused by that scene's placement. Really.

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Duilawyer

In Reply to: RE: Given your lack of attention to detail when you watch movies posted by sjb on April 17, 2008 at 21:21:50

Did you know WHEN YOU SW the picture that scene was in the past of the robery?

No.
So your point is specious. To be charitable.

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It's not the time placement of the scene that confused you. - Larry I 07:43:32 04/24/08 (0)
This is a scene from the past, when the couple went to Rio a few years earlier. Hence, it is the oldest event and it comes first. But, it really does not fit in with the rest of the picture which is centered around just a few days before, and a week after the robbery. It's purpose appears, to me anyway, as a way to justify the title. In this unremittingly bleak film, the idea that one may spend a half hour in heaven "before the devil knows you are dead" cannot really be expressed without some short-lived "reward." I thought that scene is tacked on for this purpose and was out of place.

Considering what a rough ride Lumet is about to put the viewer on, couldn't he have shown the audience some mercy by not starting with a view of Hoffman's ass?
I bet you were completely baffled by Pulp Fiction - tunenut 10:56:54 04/18/08 (2)
sometimes you need to start at the beginning and watch the whole thing without stopping to write reviews every 30 minutes...or you may actually get confused by a lot of things. Nothing about this movie confused me, but I watched it start to finish in a theater.
- Your point is-none. The begining scene is not marked out as - Duilawyer 19:07:22 04/18/08 (1)
  being prior to the robbery. Stop wasting your time trying to look more intelligent than I am. The movie had a flaw, you did not see it, (so therefore it must not be there!).
  - Non-linear time sequence is not a "flaw"... - tunenut 09:56:55 04/19/08 (0)
    it's a choice in telling a story. One you apparently dislike. Like a puzzle, it requires some small amount of effort to figure out. It did not require much. "More intelligent" I never claimed- but I guarantee I watched this movie with more focused attention than you did. That's really all it takes.
Nothing happened in that film that wasn't - sjb 09:05:54 04/18/08 (7)
pretty darn simple to follow along with as it unfolded.

Since you're the first person I've heard mention confusion and since you miss so much about so many films it's really doubtful that the number of people who didn't follow along was anywhere near 50%.

"You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
- Did you know when in sequence the first scene occurred? - Duilawyer 19:08:13 04/18/08 (6)
  From the outset? No.
  - It doesn't matter... - sjb 07:01:30 04/19/08 (5)
    I'm not someone who needs to understand exactly what's happening (and where and when) from the instant a film starts. I'm actually able to put pieces together as the film progresses.
    It took all of ten minutes to realize one couldn't be locked into some idea of fixed time in that movie.
    And it didn't take too too long to realize the opening scene was definitely before the robbery and no, it wasn't a flaw, it was an insight - for the bright people watching - into PSH's idealized goals/dreams/motivation for what follows (as in, "if only I could hold onto this, I'd be okay"... and that's what he was trying to get back to). It was also an insight into his ugliness.
    Again, pretty simple stuff when all is said and done.
    
    "You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
    
    Edits: 04/19/08
    - "I'm actually able to put pieces together as the film progresses." That's not fair!! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:57:34 04/20/08 (0)
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    - So the point is you did not understand either. When I don't - Duilawyer 10:56:51 04/19/08 (3)
      it proves you are smarter. When you don't you just write it off.
      
      Fair test. :-)
      Only took four days for you to cop.
      - The point was I didn't wonder... I just let it happen without getting confused. - sjb 11:12:00 04/19/08 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: So the point is you did not understand either. When I don't posted by Duilawyer on April 19, 2008 at 10:56:51
        
        and no I don't think I'm smarter... but I might be more patient... at least when it comes to watching movies.
        Also, the point is it wasn't a flaw. Not by a longshot.
        Edit** P.S. 37 hours isn't 4 days.
        
        "You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
        
        Edits: 04/19/08
        
        NO, the point is it made no sense, and you simply let that go by, then lied - Duilawyer 23:35:31 04/19/08 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: The point was I didn't wonder... I just let it happen without getting confused. posted by sjb on April 19, 2008 at 11:12:00
        
        to this bored saying it made sense. You see Seymour going into travel agencies implying he's buying the tickets for Rio. Be a big boy, admit the movie had a huge defect or flaw, or plothole, and that your attempt to exploit that to claim I have difficulty understanding movies, flopped. You got egg on your face, dude. You can have the last word. I always give that to people that are "treed".
        
        LOL! Okay dui... you got me... since you didn't understand it and couldn't shake the cognitive dissonance - sjb 07:04:30 04/20/08 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: NO, the point is it made no sense, and you simply let that go by, then lied posted by Duilawyer on April 19, 2008 at 23:35:31
        
        when PSH has his climactic scene and you realized the first scene wasn't in the future. It was a flaw.
        Sidney Lumet tried to slide it past us but luckily you were on the job and we're all richer for it.
        
        "You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."

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