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In Reply to: RE: what specific digital effects are you talking about? nt posted by Analog Scott on July 03, 2008 at 13:40:12
My favourit films are von bergaman and consort...
This is and remain digital effect shit.
When I look at King Kong III I get the feeling to vomit, when at one I feel the joy, so much of SE.
And I am certain that many people will get tired and are, of it, at some point.
How do you know that the little girl was looking at?
Do you were there?
Anyway the inconsistency was eclatant in those scenes.
" Mieux vaut une tęte bien faite qu'une tęte bien pleine."
Follow Ups:
> > My favourit films are von bergaman and consort...> >
Were there any close ups?
> > This is and remain digital effect shit.> >
Now you are just being willfully ignorant. what you thought was digital was not digital and you continue to call it digital and dislike it based on your willfull mischaracterization.
> > When I look at King Kong III I get the feeling to vomit, when at one I feel the joy, so much of SE.> >
We weren't talking about King Kong.
> > And I am certain that many people will get tired and are, of it, at some point.> >
You might want to consider just learning from your mistakes and moving on rather than hanging on to them.
> > How do you know that the little girl was looking at?> >
I did my home work. You might want to consider doing the same before criticizing movies based on your prejudice against CG.
> > Do you were there?> >
No.
http://www.panslabyrinth.com/gallery.html
> > Anyway the inconsistency was eclatant in those scenes.> >
I did not see them. But then I was not watching under the same presumptions as you did with the same prejudices against CG as you have. If anything you should learn something about those prejudices and how they can mislead your perceptions. i tried earlier to lead you to this awarness without rubbing your nose it your gross errors. But you had to hang on to your mistakes like a pitbull.
Look, it is so easy...You can submerge yourself in the fantasy world of SE of today, I can not.
You are not the only one, and so I am also not the only one who can´t.
PS: Bergman love digital filming and his last one was in fact done so, now it has nothing to do with Digital effects...
" Mieux vaut une tęte bien faite qu'une tęte bien pleine."
I can only hope that you might rethink your prejudices about CG. Given that those prejudices and not any actual CG seems to have interfered with your ability to enjoy Pan's Laberynth.
Did I enjoy it? Well...
" Mieux vaut une tęte bien faite qu'une tęte bien pleine."
It is clear you did not enjoy the movie. But I think you may be missing my point. You will not find a more vocal critic of bad CG than myself and as an insider I can tell you that there is a movement in genre films, in the business of making genre films that is leading to this massive onslaught of bad effects that are ruining genre films. BUT my criticism is not based on a prejudice against CG in general but on the actual quality of the content of genre films and a knowledge of how these films evolve. When one bases their criticism of films, CG and CG in films on prejudice rather than actual content one will tend to throw out the proverbial baby with the bath water. Pan's Laberynth was the exception not the rule. Many of the bad genre movies with bad CG are being dictated by the guys who do the bad CG. Many of these films are asigned a visual effects supervisor the same time they are asigned a director.On many of these films the visual supervisor has as much creative power as the director. The result is self-serving gross misguidence from the visual effects department. That was not the case with Pan's Laberynth. This was an independent film and a director's vision. The CG was used with taste and for the purpose of telling the story. It was the proverbial baby not the bath water for genre films.
I understand that CG are like drugs. The one that use to be working yesterday has ruined the last year picture for ever, as we get use to it CG) and can see through it now without pity.
This picture will obtain the " classic " rank.
And that is bad.
Anyway I can not connect to this over dose, and I may have develop an allergy.
Pans Labyrinth, also has its good moment, and the director is certainly a fine one.
After his Devil Backbone I was eager to see his newest creation, and yes I was deceived.
But the CG is only a apart of it.
But as you wrote " ruining genre films " one can I say more than this...
I will wait for a more convincing show, beside the fact that genre film as you put it is not the one I seek to see.
Not as long as it eat out every real creativity.
One film I could see back then was Star wars I and II, there was a chilish story but you could emerge in the line.
Now I will enjoy Le Diner des cons for the fourth time and there, guaranty not CG...
" Mieux vaut une tęte bien faite qu'une tęte bien pleine."
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