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In Reply to: RE: Timing is everything... posted by mpathus on July 16, 2008 at 17:37:13
I wasn't very impressed after my first (and probably only) viewing either. I thought it was mildy entertaining, but mostly predictable and too slow paced. Why did they even bother with Tommy Lee's character?As the guy who jumped off the 20-story building shouted as he passed the 10th Floor "So far..so good!"
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some people don't "get" good films the first time. But rest assured. This is a good film. Very good. Watch it again when you've had your fill of cliches, MTV generation crapola and fast paced action movies. You'll find one of the greatest explorations of law, lawlessness and the common man set to motion picture.
-------------Call it, friendo.
You can't think that the "Whoa, how cool is that" Coen Bros. gimmicks and oddness bear any semblance whatsover to the reality of drug violence, even at some allegorical level. Don't get me wrong...I think the movie was entertaining. But totally a Hollywood contrivance that romanticized psychopaths with irony and a good deal of viewer manipulation to make them palatable.
As the guy who jumped off the 20-story building shouted as he passed the 10th Floor "So far..so good!"
The problem with your analysis is two-fold.
1. The story stayed very close to Cormac McCarthy's novel, so you're completely wrong in attributing anything about the plot to Joel and Ethan Coen.
2. The entire film is so un-hollywood that your "Hollywood contrivance" explanation begs the question whether you're even thinking of the right movie.
How did you get it so wrong? There wasn't even a showdown between good guy and bad guy, which is the basis of Hollywood contrivance. Also, your previous post accused NCfOM of being too slow. Hollywood is churning out faced paced shlock, in case you didn't notice. If you're hung up on issues like drug violence and romanticizing psychopaths you can take your pick of films and TV shows that are completely void of redeeming value. NCfOM is not.
You clearly missed the artistry and symmetry of the story, the poetry of the script, the brilliance of the direction and the commentary on society and human nature. That's what cinema is all about.
-------------Call it, friendo.
But I think most contemporary dramas are to cinema as hip-hop is to music. I'm not attributing anything to the Coen Bros but the skill to assemble of a film to push the buttons of their audience. Being "un-Hollywood" is the new Hollywood.
As the guy who jumped off the 20-story building shouted as he passed the 10th Floor "So far..so good!"
Did you miss the opening scene and Bell's monologue?
This sets the tone for the film.
The title of the film has everything to do with Tommy Lee's character, and
the story wouldn't exist without him.
"...You're all welcome to stay for the next set...we're going to play all the same tunes, but in different keys..." -Count Basie
...conversation with his brother in the wheelchair...or the final scene with his wife?
The movie was ABOUT Tommy Lee's character - the rest just supported it.
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