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In Reply to: RE: Whatever happened to Technicolor. posted by Self-Inflicted on August 23, 2008 at 15:04:12
The original imbibition process and equipment was. I heard, sold to the Red Chinese. The last imbibition color prints made in this country was THE GODFATHER. The imbibition color byes were very stable and would last the test of time and would not fade. Original prints of GONE WITH THE WIND have been found that still have their vivid color. I thought Technicolor was still in business but they use the Eastman Kodak process with their refinements. Eastman Color (by Kodak) still survives and has the lion share of the color market but color dyes in this process is short lived and gradually goes purple with use and age. Film stock is still made by Fuji and Agfa. The film also shrinks with age depending on how it is stored. About the only protection to a priceless piece of cinema is to make 3 B&W (magenta, yellow, and cyan) color seperations on Estar base stock that doesn't shrink. But this is costly and many producers opt out for max profits. Ray Hughes
"A discriminating irreverence is the protector and creator of a democratic society." Mark Twain
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Hi, So is the yellowy/green or blue tint/blur to most films that I watch, e.g. Traffic, The kingdom, a gimmick or something that can't be avoided. This all seems to be a trad since the film Terminator with its blue tint. Thanks.
Regards,
Mike
The Technicolor product was very high quality. Most films mastered in Technicolor can be restored if Technicolor vaulted the original. They also worked hand in hand with the cinematographer and director, to achieve effects (de-saturation, over saturation, black and white with one pink or red flower standing apart, over blue to achieve what is called day for night etc,(de-saturation in MOBY DICK by John Houston) It's very difficult to shoot at night with very big expenditure of energy in lighting so many times they shoot in daylight, stop down 1 1/2 stops and add blue tint. Ray Hughes
"A discriminating irreverence is the protector and creator of a democratic society." Mark Twain
Do not think that because a new film has a certain 'tone' to its color, it means the film stock is bad. These decisions re: color are made by the director/cinematographer and can also be further altered in post production. Modern stocks from Kodak, such as their Vision stocks, and also Fuji's offerings are some of the finest-grain, most accurate 35mm film ever made. It's all about what you want to do with it.
Now, actual fade is the curse of some film stocks, and Eastmancolor up until the mid-90es was just horrible, losing all greens and blues, giving us innumerable 'red' prints in both Super-8 and 16mm films (and 35mm) over the years. I had to return an otherwise very nice 16mm print because the fade had turned most everything pink.
Best,
CC.
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