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In Reply to: RE: Where's Mort Sahl when we need him? posted by afilado on October 07, 2008 at 14:09:58
Believe me, I am no "Fan" of Bill Mahr, but I found the documentary even handed. He asked a lot of questions to various clergy and let them bury themselves.
Never forget, more wars have been fought in the name of religion than not.
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"Never forget, more wars have been fought in the name of religion than not."
People bandy this statement about but it's simply not true. Most wars are fought over land and plunder. Start running down the list of wars and you'll find not that many were fought over religion.
"...more wars are fought IN THE NAME of religion..."
let me translate that for you
religion is used to facilitate and lubricate waragree that religion is a stupid reason for war
right and properly -- war is always about land and booty
the only function of religion is manipulating the ignorant masses
to a large extent, television has taken the traditional role of religion -- we believe in WMD because we saw people say it on TV -- just as effective as walking on water or rising from the dead -- television is a miracle more miraculous than anything religion ever made up.
"Religion is the opiate of the masses" ever heard that one ???
Everyone is watching war on tv -- that makes it unreal -- same function as religion and dope.
here's a statistic for you: In the US armed forces -- all the Navy Seals and Special Forces teams = 99% of these expert killers call themselves Evangelical Christian
the word : "Assassin" is derived from "hashish"... suicidal killers in old Arabia took hash (and likely opium) to catch a glimpse of Paradise -- a place they were sure to enter if they were killed in the process of killing (for Islam or their Master -- same thing)
the US special forces do exactly the same thing -- being Evangelical Christians -- they don't mind putting their lives in extreme danger -- "believing" they will go to Heaven.
morons
you gotta be nuts, or religious (same thing) to do what they do
Edits: 11/06/08
but usually there is an underlying religion involved. Acquiring land is an aspect so too is power hungry megalomaniacs but Palestine/Israel is and the entire middle east conflict against Jews is religion based almost entirely.
George Bush attacked Iraq -- a country that had ZERO to do with 9/11 because he said GOD told him too. Lot of dead Iraqis and American soldiers are now dead because of Religion based running of countries.
Hitler - well if we take his mein Kempf book in his own words he acted from a twisted sense of faith based Catholicism - despite religions claim that he was not faith based the evidence clearly states otherwise.
Stalin was an Atheist but the difference is he did not "act" in the name of Atheism - a neat point that is missed by right wing fanatics.
Religions based on the sky god ideology are dangerous. People willing to believe in such things are dangerous to themselves and to others because as Richard Dawkins noted in the Root of All Evil - there are good people and bad people in this world regardless of religion or not having religion but to have otherwise good people DO evil things - that takes Religion.
Bill Maher may be sarcastic and sometimes mean - but Bill O'Reilly is a complete and utter whackjob nut who is mean, angry, intolerant, and almost always Wrong about everything. Number one best seller so he has a big nut-job following of "believers.
I spent a day watching Fox News, the first time I have seen this channel, and now I get the jokes. This is supposedly a serious TV news station - Truly shocking at the complete low quality journalism (I mean these people are truly stupid). But I hear it's popular. According to them Palin easily won the VP debate which I had watched.
Won the debate? 86% of their nutty followers agree. Thankfully 14% of the right wing redeemed themselves by revealing they have an IQ higher than 50. Then again they may have pushed the wrong button on the poll.
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And the killing goes on. The only thing that has changed is the efficiency at which it is carried out.
he asked a lot of questions but they were largely rhetorical in nature. He also spent a lot of time just saying "that's nuts." I did think there were some very funny moments due to some clever editing. But this piece totally lacks meat and Bill Mahr makes the mistake of attributing ceetitude with religion. The same levels of certitude can be found in some atheists as well. Just look at Communist China and the former Soviet Union. I think he starts out with a very good question, why do people believe irrational things (religion). Why is faith a legitimate reason for belief and why is it a good thing. But he really does drop the ball right after the great premise. But I did have some good laughs. Mormons and Evangelicals speaking in tongues make for easy targets.
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