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In Reply to: RE: An absurd post. Simply presenting a film from the German POV hardly constitutes an posted by powermatic on December 16, 2008 at 20:14:55
Newsflash: the Germans were NAZIS. The pitifully few who stood up against anti-semitism were the EXCEPTIONS to the rule. Are you sure you want to ignore the RULE and focus on the exception? Are you sure you want to pretend the German perspective is worth championing? If so, your position seems pretty fucked up.
-------------Call it, friendo.
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...individuals or small groups may start movements in a positive direction (against the odds), might be considered an encouraging trend to some, and certainly don't discount attrocities that they relate to historically.
After mourning, forgiveness becomes life affirmation and a direction away from anger and "death".
Indeed we will not forget, inorder to forgive and not allow mistakes of the past to become our legacy.
mental facilities, but, explain to me how 'Schindler's List', even though it was shown from a German POV, was even remotely pro-Holocaust? I'll admit I rarely come to the F/DVD site, and this was coincidence, but it's still a bit surprising that no one has absolutely called you out on this type of BS.
I've yet to see a modern, pro-Nazi/anti Jewish film (and don't say anything about Riefensthall!), but if you've got something to show me, let me know. Otherwise, control your impulses.
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You assumed I think Schindler's List is "pro-holocaust". That's idiotic. I never said that. To reiterate my point, Schindler's List started a trend of showing Germans as major protagonists. As for Schindler, it is pathetic that such a boorish man is now considered a hero. Don't give me that shit about "it shows anyone can be a hero" because I don't want to hear it.No filmmaker would make an overtly "pro-holocaust" movie if they expected it to be distributed outside the Muslim world. That doesn't mean ignoring the stories of Jews and focusing on the stories of Germans is appropriate, acceptable or instructive in any way. It's not ethical and it needs to stop. And the fact that so many of you would condone it is revolting.
Since you ask for an example, watch "Black Book". Here's a dutch film distributed by Sony. It's about a good nazi, an evil resistance fighter, and a slutty Jewish lady who sees her entire family murdered and then decides to become the mistress of the nazi commander responsible for their deaths. This disgraceful story is directed by paul vandervort with all the sensitivity of a schoolyard bully. He doesn't just break taboos. He smashes them as if he's directing another of his dumbass action flicks rather than a totally misrepresentative narrative from the darkest pages of history.
I understand you don't come to the film forum often, but you chose a humdinger of a discussion to weigh in on, when you're not even familiar with these movies and clearly have no concept why they're upsetting.
-------------Call it, friendo.
Edits: 12/16/08
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