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fairly wooden performances by the main characters ( Brothers )
Molasses slow script worth tolerating for a couple of fairly decent action scenes
Partisans mostly appear too well fed + *way* well too dressed with nary a button missing or a thread out of place, not a hole worn in a jacket elbow or a trouser knee, not an ill-fitting garment to be seen. This band of gypsies clearly had access to the best bespoke tailors drycleaning facility + hairdressers in the Belorussian woods...
Sibling rivalry Hollywoodisation further adds to the sense of unreality
There were members of the "real" partisans who starved themselves to death because they couldn't get kosher food. This luke-warm rendering doesn't do their real story justice * at all *
An opportunity lost; viewed as "90% fantasy based on a true story" it's passable enough
GW
Follow Ups:
and who would want to?
themselves.
(wikipedia)
"The largest controversy centers around the Naliboki massacre in May 1943, when Polish peasants and members of the Polish resistance were killed by Soviet partisans. (For more on the relations between Polish and Soviet resistance, see Soviet partisans in Poland). While historians have yet to finish their research on that subject, some sources contend that the Bielski partisans participated in the Naliboki massacre with the Soviet partisans.[8] Other sources argue that so far little evidence has been found to suggest the Bielski partisans were responsible for the massacre, and some historians, including Tuvia Bielski’s son, claim that the Bielski partisans were not in the area at the time.[9] No mention of this event is present in the film, which has been criticized for this omission, particularly in Poland, and also for glorifying people who may have been responsible for the massacre.[8]
While the issue of the Naliboki massacre remains the most controversial, the Polish press and historians have criticized the movie for other historical inaccuracies. The mainstream Polish journal Gazeta Wyborcza (editor Adam Michnik is of Jewish descent) noted in a series of articles that Zwick inaccurately portrayed the Bielski partisans as actively fighting the German army. Citing research by Polish historians and the Institute of National Remembrance, the critics point out that the Bielski partisans followed a "survivalist" strategy: their goal was to stay alive, not to strike at the Germans. Thus they fled German manhunts and avoided direct confrontations as much as possible.[10]
Further, the background of the movie is criticized. The movie portrays the Navahrudak (Nowogródek) and surrounding areas (pre-war Nowogródek Voivodeship of the Second Polish Republic) as entirely Jewish and Belarusian, while, according to Gazeta Wyborcza, there was a significant Polish minority in those areas. (According to official Polish pre-war census data, Navahrudak was approximately 50% Jews, 25% Poles, 20% Belarusians, and 5% others.) Critics also complain that the movie ignores the significant presence in the region of the Polish resistance, not just the Soviet-allied groups. There have also been complaints that the movie portrays the Bielski partisans as fluent in Russian (or Belarusian), but not Polish, when in fact, according to Gazeta Wyborcza, they were more fluent in Polish, and might have not known Russian at all. However, since the film is mostly in English, it is possible that this is being used as a simplification to represent Polish and Russian, thus making this point moot. Gazeta Wyborcza proposes that the movie's main problem is not the in-progress investigation of the (possibly false) Naliboki connection, but the gross historical inaccuracy of ignoring the dominant Polish element in the background.[11]
The Jewish Press cited the American prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials, Telford Taylor, as saying that, with regard to movies generally, "historical misrepresentations could leave the uninformed viewer with an inaccurate historical record about what a movie is depicting" while criticizing the fictionalization of the story.[12]"
for 'allegedly' gaining power of attorney for his 90 yr. old Miami neighbor, taking her back to her native Poland, leaving her in a nursing home there, and stealing several hundred thousand from her bank accounts.
'Allegedly'.
"Dammit..."
appears to be the Industry of the Future
Certainly is with this film
GW
One person's accuracy is another person's bias, etc. A few days ago one could be villified for suggesting white phosphorus was used in Gaza, whereas today to deny it would seem ridiculous - depending on the context, of course. Sorry, I know this isn't History 101!Nechama Tec's book, on which the film is based, would be the next port of call for those interested in this topic. She seems to have given the film her blessing:
Edits: 01/23/09
I have often thought that if a rational Fascist dictatorship were to exist, then it would choose the American system' Noam Chomsky
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Is my mind turning completely to porridge, or was Sylvia in fact also in a pirate movie, playing the lovely kidnapee of a swarthy captain? I seem to recall her on deck with a scarf over her head.
Ah, the human imagination.....
where were his acne scars?
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