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I didn't see Penn in Milk, but I can tell in each and every of his movies that he is acting and never for a moment I am not reminded that he's Sean Penn! I remember when he also was a rebel and, didn't attend the Hollywood, red-carpet self-congratulating, events like that. Now it's Mickeys turn to lick some boots and beg. Maybe, it's too late for him?
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Penn's role in Milk is his best ever, and he truly disappears into another character, that of Harvey Milk. This is by far his best, most subtle and most touching, work. And this is from someone who admires his talent but is not always a fan.
Milk is also an excellent, film - so why haven't you seen it???
Rourke was great in The Wrestler. But I suspect many voters overlooked the performance thinking that the role and the actor were too close. I think MR walked a fine line, and delivered a fantastic, iconic performance, a lot more delicate and restrained than AMPAS apparently gave him credit for. Maybe they want to see him stick around and show his commitment for the craft before they give him a statue.
France will be outraged no doubt.
great performance. If Mickey can follow up with a damn good one, not necessarily as great but in the ballpark, he'll win.
I don't know. With Penn's baggage, he just seemed like a white guy in black face.
The Oscars don't really mean that much in the greater scheme of things. They're industry awards, and a commercial segment of the industry to boot.
AMPAS is more about film business than film art. The best picture of the year???? Usually not. Sometimes good movies win, sometimes not. The one thing you need to determine the "best" of any given year - time - you don't have with annual awards. So I don't get too invested in the Oscars except for fun and handicapping.
As it happens, this year I thought Penn gave his best film performance ever, a very fine one by anyone's standards. As I said, I'm not especially a Penn fan, but I found his Harvey Milk totally believable, subtle, 3 dimensional and convincing. I'm able to ignore an actor's personal baggage if they don't bring it along, which in this case, Penn didn't. Mickey R had a great, iconic role,and if he sticks around, he'll eventually get his statue. In the meantime, he got plenty of other awards this season.
That's just the way the Oscars work and I refuse to get very excited about it
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no Oscar, just a nomination. Excuse me if I save my pity for those slightly less fortunate than Mickey Rourke.
For the record, I would've given him the award for The Wrestler, it is a truly memorable creation. But Penn really did a good job as Milk, as did Langella as Nixon. So none of those three would disappoint me as a winner.
Penelope Cruz won for a decent role in a trifle of a movie. Probably Meryl Streep deserved it, but again, it is hard to summon pity for Meryl.
My favorite win of the night was Man on Wire. Phillipe Petite got to run up and do a little coin magic and got to balance the Oscar on his chin. This was one of my two favorite movies last year.
his portrayal of Harvey Milk is about as good as it gets. The scene where he's sitting alone in a kitchen talking into a tape recorder mike ( + convinced he's just about to be killed ) would be deserving of an Oscar by itself; but given that there are a dozen other scenes in the film that are equally as good, I'm pleased he got the Oscar, Penn truly deserved that
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Then see "Milk" and you'll develop a different opinion of him.
He's really superb and much less Penn than you could imagine.
I'm looking forward to seeing "The Westler".
"...You're all welcome to stay for the next set...we're going to play all the same tunes, but in different keys..." -Count Basie
...in one, the actor disappears and becomes the character. Each part and performance are very different. Sean Penn.
In the other, the actor plays a version of himself and is similar in all of his parts. Mickey Rourke.
The Academy tends to reward the first group. Had Sean Penn not turned in the performance he did in Milk, Mickey would have had a good chance this year.
It's not about suffering,it's about acting.
think actors with incredibly strong persona, like Penn, don't do well when they attempt roles very different from what you know is their personality. We tend to see the artifice and think, "Wow, that must have been very hard!"
With good character actors, we are only aware of the character.
Streep is another example.
I think Penn and Streep should just stick to what obviously are their larger-than-life personalities.
...I'll bet even John Wayne acted differently in his first film than in his last.Rourke had the potential to be a good actor.
But "The Wrestler" is what he's become. Seems pretty much like him.
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Yep. I have a hard time stomaching when an actor gets an award or accolades for continually playing the same role.
From the movies I've seen (haven't seen Milk) Penn generally does a fairly convincing job IMO. As for Rourke I'm not sure, as I haven't seen a movie of his for years. But maybe he fits the bill of a one trick pony.
IMO the academy should ONLY reward the first group. After all it is about ACTING....
If they ever make a movie role about a boring engineering manager at a boring steel shop they should get me to play the role, I've been doing it for 20+ years. Then maybe I could get an Oscar. :)
Question "Authority", the mainstream media sucks - Go Independent and hold BOTH parties accountable instead of just the other guys!
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