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As my rental service do not carry for the moment volume one, I had to spring in the cold water and go directly into volume two.
Bit late one would say, I never was keen to see any of the two since viewing some previews I was take aback by them.
Was I wrong? Yes and no.
Was Tarantino opus nothing more than a brutal remake of Prizzi´s Honor without the finesse and the humor of late John Huston, but with a lot of bling bling?
Mr. Tarantino must have seen a lot of films in his life, there is a vast patchwork from Sergio Leone to almost every know directors, but they are not finely attached, they not has been digested to come out as something of his really own.
There is a sense of esthetic more on the cold side who lives on through the film.
A junk food spectacle?
Hum, certain is a sense of sadism and masochism ( who would doubt that? ) and a big part of chauvinism, Mr. Trantino dont really like women. Not in this film...
The weakest point was one of the last scene in the film, the discussion between both proponents, just laughable and naive after the orgy of " a women see Red " thanks to Bronson..
Is it a trash film? A " B " film?
A KUNG - Fu Film?
A TV serie?
Even the music is spaghetti Western!
Tarantino himself said it is the film number one in is preference.
Was it boring ( apart from the scene at the end? ) No it was not! Mostly well acted, time did pass by.
Now pass me that coca-cola...
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Follow Ups:
Think I'm in good company here. You can get stoned for not liking the KB's elsewhere. Tell you what I think. QT could write his own ticket after the success of Pulp Fiction and I imagine very large offers were pouring in. He did something that was unprecedented, I think, he got paid twice for one movie. I'm sure having two movies appealed to the studio, too, all the way to the bank. I got to say that was pretty novel and creative thinkin (that's why we like the guy) but the KB's and that other thing that followed are a terrible let down from Pulp, Dogs, and True Romance tho he is only given credit for writing the latter, a note perfect movie. Utter doo-doo (IMO) but audiences ate em up. I have high hopes for Bastards (may see it today).
My little finger seems to itch. A certain coldness...
But no doubt for me he is a misogyne..Not without a kind of humor.
As for his latest opus I wonder if I will see it at all, it depend on how I will appreciate or not his KB one.
Quentin asked Ebert what he though and Ebert said "it is either the worst film of the year or the best."
From his review of Inglorious Basterds:
A Tarantino film resists categorization. “Inglourious Basterds” is no more about war than “Pulp Fiction” is about — what the hell is it about? Of course nothing in the movie is possible, except that it’s so bloody entertaining. His actors don’t chew the scenery, but they lick it. He’s a master at bringing performances as far as they can go toward iconographic exaggeration.
After I saw “Inglourious Basterds” at Cannes, although I was writing a daily blog, I resisted giving an immediate opinion about it. I knew Tarantino had made a considerable film, but I wanted it to settle, and to see it again. I’m glad I did. Like a lot of real movies, you relish it more the next time. Immediately after “Pulp Fiction” played at Cannes, QT asked me what I thought. “It’s either the best film of the year or the worst film,” I said. I hardly knew what the hell had happened to me. The answer was: the best film. Tarantino films have a way of growing on you. It’s not enough to see them once." http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090819/REVIEWS/908199995
When I walked out of Kill Bill Vol 1 I thought it was pretty much rubbish - nevertheless I did have a smile on my face at the absurdity of the whole thing. Later I saw Vol II because in for a penny in for a pound. I preferred Vol II in some ways.
A couple of years later I watched them both again and I appreciate them more to the point where what at first I felt was rubbish schlock has arguably transformed into two of my favorite films of the decade.
I am going to revisit Deathproof soon to - just to see how I feel about that film on second view.
I absolutely agree they have a way to grown on you.
I would say they are a kind of genious...Trash.
But all the difference for me on the long run is: would I like to see it another one more time?
And then even more?
My answer is: No I would, and that is all the difference.
Between a standard and a Mac Donald.
I have a copy of Kill Bill Vol. 2, which I see as an essentially reworked (and improved) K.B. 1.
Q.T. brings trash to a readable/artistic level, unlike John Waters whose breaking with manners must count for something (though for me Waters' result is virtually unwatchable and mostly unpleasant).
(Still, I think "Pulp Fiction" will stand as QT's masterpiece - gets to me for its barbarous and cheap pulp mentality, chapter and verse - all suavely woven together with outstanding cameo performances.)
Now I do not know if it was the definitive version...
I love this series. What has pissed me off more than anything is that I thought QT was going to put some effort into putting out The Whole Bloody Affair and make a long director's cut. I've been holding off buying this thing until it actually is done right.
Just kiddin'. Your points are thoughtful and well taken.
I'd like to add a few of my own.
I hated the first volume, then found the whole exercise miraculously redeemed with the second. Maybe it was just that I finally came to realize what QT was actually up to in the second film.
Is it a rehash of past genre movies? No. It is more like a synthesis of many genres ... a mediation on the art of story telling itself, which we see in its most elemental form, when Bill recounts, by firelight, the legend of (what was it called, the Hiroshi heart attack [my apologies] ... to the tune of his flute playing -- a re-enactment of primitive story telling. It is an amalgam of the legend of this and the legend of that, and the pop cliche of this and the pop cliche of that, Western this and Eastern that ... all points on the continuum of story telling. It shamlessly borrows and exploits the venacular of others, popular conventions, and stereotypes -- the western, the revenge film, the kung fu film, the italian spaghetti western, the japanaese sumari film, the American 70's black mainstreaming movie, or Greek mythology ... all these forms, all these conventions, are subjected to high heat in the potboiler of Tarrantino's imagination. And what comes out is a heaping helping of penetrating, cross cultural observations of the human condition, to be taken seriously and rejected as conventional cliches at the same time, and which, in a kind of crucible, forces us to confront the charred remains of what this world of images, customs and conventions is really all about anyway.
Tarrantino only seems to be a juvenile shock-meister. He is several pay-grades above it.
Well i will see the first volume only next week.
Yes a synthesis is what I wrote ( meant ) but not a refined one almost a caricature,
Thank you for rewriting my own critic....With different words..You not Caucasian boy.....
How about a refined caricature?
I think there's a strong element of caricature in all of Tarantino's films and I think he normally does that well, but one man's caricature can easily be another's grotesque…
David Aiken
A caricature we agree, but the elements attaching one element to the other is ( in my view ) NOT refined.
Just the contrary, it is loud, vulgar but has its charm. of course.
it is more tongue in cheek and over the top
Kill Bill 2 was too drawn out
thanks
Phil
...the fight in the mobile home is a classic.
Vol. 1 pales in comparison, except to provide a little background for #2.
Unless you are in to Asian kung-fu-sword-fighting films.
You finally got the movie, but you didn't get it. See Vol I anyway.
Oh I get it...Did you?
Number one is on its way.
Vol. 1 is a totally different film.
How do you guys do these? I could not get throught 15 minutes of either one. Pure garbage' in my little humble mind.
Peter
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