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The real movies come on 35mm film. All the rest is just child's play.

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Victor Khomenko

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In Reply to: RE: Joy oh joy - Criterion bringing The Thin Red Line to Blu-Ray posted by Doug Flynn on March 27, 2010 at 00:48:58

I once visited a home with a **real** home theater. There was a projectionist room, with two synchronized full-size 35mm projectors, splicing table, the whole nine yards.
There are those who still maintain the B&W movies only look right on B&W screens, and all that plasma is nothing but sugar in your Lafite.
I tend to agree. I would much rather drink $20 wine straight than Lafite with sugar.
People sometimes draw a forced parallel between the worlds of high end audio and video, when in reality there is absolutely nothing in common.

Edits: 03/27/10

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Victor, you, of course, are welcome to your opinion, but if most of us... - jeffreybehr 23:44:45 03/27/10 (4)
...had to see movies only on 35mm projections, we'd be enjoying about 0.01% of the movies we do now.

My 3-panel LCD-type projector, an Epson 1080UB, is adjusted to make most movies look quite natural, at least in mine and the majority of my friends' opinions. Those images look very little like those on plasma and other flat-screen TVs as seen in the stores.

I project on a 2.35 screen*, and my seating distance produces a viewing angle of almost 42 degrees. The entire experience, including the audio thru my 6-channel tubed preamp, mostly SET-tubed amps, and high-efficiency OBLA speakers, is very rewarding.

And that 6-channel audio system sounds fabulously natural playing Classical SACDs.

And just because TVs in stores are adjusted with WAY too much white level, black level, saturation, and graininess...oops, sharpness...doesn't mean they all look that way in home theaters.

* and fill the screen with Panavision movies by zooming the lens and carefully positioning the image
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- Admit it - you were waiting for a post like mine as an excuse to show your system! :) - Victor Khomenko 06:52:47 03/28/10 (3)
  Projectors in general beautify less, I agree. They have less of those "brilliant colors" that the public buys.
  - Maybe. :-) But virtually ALL TVs can be adjusted to be rid of the grossest... - jeffreybehr 14:19:54 03/28/10 (2)
    ...of excesses. My last TV was a 67"-diagonal Samsung single-DLP-type RPTV, and it had NONE of the excesses it now has living in my daughter's home. I guess they like those eyeball-burning images. :-)
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    - "Brilliant colors" are back! - Victor Khomenko 14:46:56 03/28/10 (1)
      But don't worry, those bulbs have finite life time! :)
      - I don't worry at all; it's theirs, not mine. (NT) - jeffreybehr 10:38:27 03/29/10 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: "Brilliant colors" are back! posted by Victor Khomenko on March 28, 2010 at 14:46:56
        
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RE: What is your ankle? - patrickU 08:31:30 03/27/10 (11)
As long there is a talking picture there maybe an high end audio to go with.
Right.
- A simple test - Victor Khomenko 08:39:53 03/27/10 (10)
  Go visit a high end enthusiast, and watch what he plays. 99.99% well recorded crap.
  
  At some point love for superficial stuff begins to dominate.
  
  I am a sucker for plasma too, but I know I am swallowing sugar. And I know Clark was right - La Strada does look better... OK, make it more right... on a B&W screen.
  - RE: A simple test - patrickU 08:51:32 03/27/10 (9)
    Yes.
    
    I was pointing out that the sound of a movie through a High End sound installation, tuned for movies is a try to get nearer to the original.
    Now did Lafite used the addition of sugar in bad years...Who knows....
    The bottle now is at Euro 500 for a 1990.
    An excellent choice.
    - Report I read said Chinese nouveau riche only know one word in wine: - tinear 16:18:28 03/27/10 (4)
      Lafite.
      That's the reason for that particular one zooming off into stratosphere. Nouveau Russkies like expensive champagnes so they've not affected much.
      Myself?
      I'll go with the Burgundy, except that they've been beyond my reach (at least the Grand) for quite some time.
      I'll get to drink a DRC only if one appears under the tree some Christmas or I find one on the street.
      Tragic but true.
      - RE: Report I read said Chinese nouveau riche only know one word in wine: - patrickU 03:11:42 03/28/10 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Report I read said Chinese nouveau riche only know one word in wine: posted by tinear on March 27, 2010 at 16:18:28
        
        Bourgogne are just the best.
      - You can make your own Lafite... - Victor Khomenko 17:11:41 03/27/10 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Report I read said Chinese nouveau riche only know one word in wine: posted by tinear on March 27, 2010 at 16:18:28
        
        ...by adding sugar to your Black Box cabernet.
        
        Not sure about expensive champagne among the Russian rich scum, but for sure they gulp up tons of d'yquem.
        
        Chateau d'Yquem is the greatest of sauternes and undoubtedly one of life's - tinear 11:04:49 03/28/10 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: You can make your own Lafite... posted by Victor Khomenko on March 27, 2010 at 17:11:41
        
        great pleasures. The thought of a bunch of guys drunk on vodka guzzling it makes me nauseous.
        
        Well, WE made those bastards rich, who are we to complain now? - Victor Khomenko 11:37:02 03/28/10 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Chateau d'Yquem is the greatest of sauternes and undoubtedly one of life's posted by tinear on March 28, 2010 at 11:04:49
        
        Tell that to Europe who is totally dependent on their gas.
    - Someone told me War and Peace reads better when it is on fine paper - Victor Khomenko 09:02:27 03/27/10 (3)
      I can neither verify nor confirm that theory, as I have no Blue R... errr... W&P on fine paper.
      OTOH, I wholeheartedly agree Jamie Colby looks far sexier in HD! :)
      And if I lost my mind and began to watch sports, then the HD would be the only way to go!
      "Nurse, move the Blue Ray into Napoleon's room... he's been getting restless lately! And double on his meds!"
      
      Edits: 03/27/10 03/27/10
      - RE: Someone is right. - patrickU 09:31:17 03/27/10 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Someone told me War and Peace reads better when it is on fine paper posted by Victor Khomenko on March 27, 2010 at 09:02:27
        
        Now what is fine paper. A paper that smell good whose quality you feel under your fingers from side to side, character well well roundly printed, yes that ad to the pleasure of your senses, making them more aware more sensitive, try that young girl with a preservative and without...
        Am I getting to slippery?
        
        Watch sport? Now that would be kinky.
        
        BD is most of the time an excellent amelioration. It also compensate for the old goat syndrome of lesser sight.
        
        What we have in video today is reminiscent of stereo world of the seventies - Victor Khomenko 09:49:10 03/27/10 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Someone is right. posted by patrickU on March 27, 2010 at 09:31:17
        
        When the companies discovered they could drastically reduce the distortion level through the use of semiconductors and tons of negative feedback.
        
        We started getting truly impressive specs. And we all know what happened next.
        
        I think today all that high quality video crap moves us further and further away from the appreciation of artistic elements in films. We are becoming "videophiles" who sit there watching their pixels and contrast, much like the audiophiles listening to imaging and extensions. Doesn't matter what's playing - Mahler or Les Ketchups.
        
        RE: What we have in video today is reminiscent of stereo world of the seventies - patrickU 10:02:52 03/27/10 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: What we have in video today is reminiscent of stereo world of the seventies posted by Victor Khomenko on March 27, 2010 at 09:49:10
        
        Well this is a learning curb. In this hobby we all are idiots. Some hear the music without having the need for anything Hi-fi.
        
        The best is the two world. After having set a good system audio or and video, just let yourself enjoy it without neurosis.
        
        Life force us to seek a compensation for our lost innocence.
RE: The real movies come on 35mm film. All the rest is just child's play. - Tom Brennan 08:21:15 03/27/10 (1)
OK, don't watch it on video then. Have fun not watching it.
- OK, don't read my post, reply without reading it. - Victor Khomenko 08:35:17 03/27/10 (0)
  Plasma is for plastic boobs!

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