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In Reply to: RE: "Audition" - Japanese posted by Dr Phibes on November 18, 2010 at 03:26:06
He made 'Imprint' as part of the 'Masters Of Horror' series but the producers balked after seeing it and decided it was just too over the top for them to include in the series.
But if you can get a copy I very highly recommend it.
J.B.
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After seeing "Audition" - which I found absolutely first-rate..."Imprint" was very disappointing.
"Imprint" reminded me of a light-porn "Night Gallery" with a barrage of gratuitous gore and violence. This in itself, without underlying substance - simply bores me.
And Drago's acting was sub-par.
I appreciate the recommendations and I'll continue to check out more Miike... Perhaps "Audition" has my expectations too high.
Edits: 11/20/10
and IMO it works when viewed in that context. One is expected to step outside of ones self and take up different viewpoints.
I think also that when Mikke was invited to do an episode of 'Masters of Horror' he decided to do something so over the top that when the rest of the entries in the series were gathering dust somewhere 'Imprint' would still be making waves...which it is.
But IMO this is not only about Mikke making a point but also I think about his re-envisioning of Kurosawa's 'Rashomon' which kept coming to mind during 'Imprint'. The original story ('Bokkee, Kyotee') that 'Imprint' is based on was written by a woman (Shimako Iwai) who was also involved in the making of the film. Here is what she said about her story:
"I was trying to tell a sad story, not so much a scary one. But when I was finished, it was just plain scary. I was an unsuccessful author of young women’s novels. And I wanted to return to prominence as an author. But I could not write. My private life suffered. And my husband and I were talking of divorce. Then I thought: 'women are so disadvantaged.' A sad existence that has nowhere to run or hide. I felt strongly about this. I thought I should write about women. I wanted to write about women and this is the story that resulted. Women with no place to escape" She also said that she thought the film was better than her story.
Among other parallels both films are about the search for truth...I could go on but I hope you get my point.
Is it high art? No. But it is in a way a statement/exploration by Takashi Miike of the extremes of HIS art and his ability as a director to shine a different light on a classic film/story.
J.B.
J.B. - I thank you for taking the time to write such an insightful take and factual history about the film. You articulated some peripheral thoughts I had while watching the flick, but with an informed clarity.
Again, this film wasn't my cup of tea- but your post certainly was...All the best to you sir.
There is a difference between being scared and horrified and Imprint's savagery was nearly intolerable.
Share a bowl of grits with someone you love tonight.
I still maintain people who like watching that kind of movies are definitely sick and should not be allowed into the Starbuck's Coffee houses.
so it was horrifying for me. Maybe that was hazing in your old military academy, I don't know but I found it pretty strong.
Share a bowl of grits with someone you love tonight.
Long ago I developed the simple technique - I just tell myself this is plastic, red paint and fake wounds.
As she started with the needles, I immediately told myself the finger looked too plastic, and the emotion meter dropped right away.
I am not kidding you.
I developed that "skill" many years ago after the scalping scene in the Salo caused me to close my eyes for a moment - I didn't know I was "that delicate" until then.
So as I watched the Imprint, the horror simply did not materialize, it was all too fake, poorly done, in fact... so - boring.
Now, some scenes in M are truly horrifying in my book, so I don't like watching it. Of course there it is done without plastic and red paint, which makes it so much more piercing and gripping. I think I mentioned before that I consider the open door shot easily the most horrific scene in the movies that I have seen. It is stuff from a REAL nightmare.
Look , I didn't benefit from or enjoy "Imprint" either ... but why do you feel the need to attack folks by calling them "sick"?
Putting aside your ridiculous political and social commentaries - you are seemingly capable of writing insightful film comments/reviews ...
Why don't you stick to *that* instead of lowering the bar on the Film Asylum to unabashed rudeness?
Furthermore -I don't see Film Asylum comments growing in numbers. Could this be attributed to the lack of etiquette around these parts?
If you didn't like "Imprint" ... in your opinion Victor ... What is a Miike film in the same league as "Audition"? I'd like to know.
Or simply ... Why *didn't* you like "Imprint"? I'd like to know that too.
But... I don't like seeing your tyrannical posts punishing folks for having a different viewpoint then you do. Ultimately, I think it drives legitimate opinions and perspectives from this place.
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you have to jump around a little to get parts 3 + 4, which have Spanish subtitles, but its there...
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