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In Reply to: RE: "A Separation:" the foreign film Oscar winner--- should have won best film, overall, is a posted by tinear on March 04, 2012 at 14:54:43
Does it matter to you?Does it matter that Iranian made, or supplied, rockets fall on Israeli towns?
Does it matter that most likely a portion of your ticket dollars will go towards financing Hizballah and Hamas?
Iran today is a fascist state, where things don't "just happen". They happen because they are targeted and allowed to happen. You feel comfortable giving your money to the biggest terrorist supporter? I don't.
Watching that movie has all the elements of watching a German one in 1939. They are very good at propaganda, and they knew a bunch of Hollywood idiots would go nuts over their family drama. Who cares about bomb factories and murdered soldiers when somewhere in the US, some movie lover will go misty-eyed?
There is time in life for everything. Right now it is not time for Iranian films.
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...Israel attacked the USS Liberty: 204.
P.A.
demonize the Iranian people, to continue the mindless propaganda that the governance of Iran is "lunatic, suicidal."
It isn't. We've heard this before about our enemies. From Ghadaffi to Hussein we've been told, "they're crazy!"
Crazy as foxes. They wish to survive as much as anyone else.
We were told the Japanese also were fanatics. Yet, they surrendered in WWII, just as the Germans did. The Germans also fought almost to the last man in defending Berlin.
Would Americans fight less than these other people to defend our homeland?
Are Russians, who fought to the last man to defend Stalingrad... all crazy, too, Vic?
Israel purposefully sank an American warship. Do you boycott Israeli films?
Fascist would more appropriate. They are no more crazy than Adolf was.The question is really very simple. If you wish to support that regime (whatever you call if for your own convenience) with your money, while it has been documented that their explosive devices killed thousands of our men, and scores of the Israelis - go ahead, this is free country.
My interest is just in bringing this fact to people's attention. Perhaps some will abstain from sending the fascists their money... that is all.
You obviously feel different. I suspect you think your money will go towards better lives for people. Truth is you either have no notion, or are in complete denial, as far as how the totalitarian regimes operate.
You might want to seek out some Iranian refugees and discuss that with them. I presume you know how the Cuban refugees felt about supporting Castro.
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" Like Farhadi's last three films, A Separation was made without any government support. The financing went without trouble much thanks to the success of About Elly.[6] The production was granted 25,000 US dollars in support from the Motion Picture Association's APSA Academy Film Fund.[7]
In September 2010, Farhadi was banned from making the film by the Iranian Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance, because of an acceptance speech held during an award ceremony where he expressed support for several Iranian film personalities. Notably he had wished to see the return to Iranian cinema by Mohsen Makhmalbaf, an exiled filmmaker and Iranian opposition profile, and the imprisoned political filmmaker Jafar Panahi, both of whom had been connected to the Iranian Green Movement. The ban was lifted in the beginning of October after Farhadi claimed to have been misperceived and apologized..."
Wikipedia
I was not talking about support. Your quote confirms what I stated earlier.
you know?
We know that Iran is a totalitarian state, in desperate need of money. I have seen another totalitarian state, how it operates in similar situation. All proceeds from activity abroad would be surrendered to the state. The state would then reward the person with local perks - an apartment, a car, food coupons to special distributor...
Neither you nor I have any certainty in this regard, but there is a reasonable assumption that a portion of proceeds will go towards the government's needs. You yourself posted the link describing the degree of control the government has.
You think the Iranian government will simply let $100M or so go past its grab?
You are just making stuff up now. 100M? I guess facts like how film financing and distribution actually works, how much money the movie has actually grossed and where that money actually goes is besides the point. But then facts usually are besides the point when hate mongering is going on.
again I have to ask, do you put gas in your car? Where do you think that money goes? Heck do you use electricity at all?
Do you not understand the basic need to support artists in politically oppressed countries? Of course not.
This was your idiotic claim
"Does it matter that most likely a portion of your ticket dollars will go towards financing Hizballah and Hamas?"
Utter bullshit. Hizballah and Hamas have back end deals on this film?
GET a clue!!!!!!
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Someone prefers to give it to those who kills our boys. Indirectly... sure... but still.
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Does he buy gas?
Does he have any idea about who the film makers of A Seperation are or how the film was funded?
By his logic if you bought Ladysmith Black Mambazo records in the 80s or Graceland by Paul Simon for that matter you were funding Aparthied.
You can't fix stupid. In this case he is being just plain stupid.
I guess if one bought a Crosby Stills and Nash album back in the day they were supporting the Vietnam war but if they bought a Joni Mithcell album they were funding draft dodgers.
dumb as dirt....
this one may be the stupidest.
You are Russian right? You must be a commie. Anyone who buys your product is supporting communism. Nukes aimed at the USA are being funded by supporting commies like you!
Yep that's how stupid you sound here.
About the same level as Homos can't breed so they gotta recruit!!!
I bet you are one of those idiots that thinks Cat Stevens is a threat to national security....
Burn any of his records lately?
Now is not the time for Iranian films? Now is not the time for mindless hate mongering. especially in a film forum.
...has it been 25 years..?!
:->
"I'd like to own a squadron of tanks"
That's quite a picture you've picked for Now ... : ^ )
I did a search - she doesn't look bad.
Yea, there's better pics out there. But that was the before and after piccy Google gave me.
"I'd like to own a squadron of tanks"
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