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I do not post very often, but this chemistry of casting, "big number montage flops", and music in general...(I never read anything about this movie, nor did I want to see it when it came out, HBO snowed in KC)
Tom "Axel" @#%! Cruise....really??!!??
Russel "Please don't speak" Brand...
Alec "I lost my cool in 1993" Baldwin...As "The Bourbon" failing owner...
I know, I know....this was a Broadway play and most should not be made into movies...
But the most offensive was the music...I was a Junior in college in 1987 had a PA System I would rent out to bands, since 1982...my musical tastes during that era was, Police, U2, Pretenders, Replacements, Clash, Elvis Costello, The Jam,...alternative...
But I worked for allot of "Hair Band / Eyeliner Wearing MTV Cover Driven can't call it Metal Music"....I heard songs in this movie I would have been just fine never hearing again... but sung by Alec, Tom, Russel...
this is perfect storm kind of bad...I won't even go into the arrangements/melding of songs...
I started to embrace the badness, by trying to guess the name of the band of such lost favorites; with this constant flow soundtrack of music that I learned to hate by working with hair bands...I did not do very well, but it did have both of Whitesnake's only hits...AND EVERY Hair Ballad...
If you know that tragic period in music...you can list over half the sound track by just listing Hair Band Anthems/Ballads...
I did not finish the movie, I missed the last 15 minutes, which was building to an all loose-ends tied up musical extravaganza finale...
Hope to see the ending soon...HBO will only play it 200 times in the next 3 weeks, between all their channels....can't wait...
I did not search if this particular piece of movie magic was discussed here already...but when a movie of this quality motivates me to post...my cup runneth over..
thanks
Mark
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Now...is that anyway to behave at rock-n-roll show??
Jim Morrison, Absolutely Alive
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I was just starting high school when grunge/alternative took over in about '91. Over the next 5-7 years there were dozens of pathetic nirvana ripoff bands. They all sounded the same. The biggest fm station in the country was the alternative one here in Chicago. How can you brag about being the biggest and claim to be alternative at the same time?
I'm not a big pop music fan so I don't really know but I wonder if the 80's were really different from any other decade. I was born in the late 70's and I lost interest in pop music in the nineties.
I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of ROA when I passed it on HBO a couple of weeks ago but I actually like eighties rock far more than the 90's. The eighties were silly but the 90's, as far as I can tell, just added unnecessary seriousness and sanctimony to the silliness. Rock stars in the eighties used to have amusing public feuds. It's almost like they knew they were basically just scrawny professional wrestlers with guitars. You'd get a great song or a thoughtful message once in a while but it was snuck in between the songs about sex and drugs. Isn't that how rock 'n roll should be?
Imagine how boring the internet would be if folks were as civil here as they are in person.
First..."they were basically just scrawny professional wrestlers with guitars"
WoW...did you nail that...I worked for this one band where the two guitarists and bass player WITH instruments would not have tipped the scales over 400 lbs....for real...3 guys....
I went to school in WI, 90 miles from the Twin Cities and I could be at 1st Avenue Night Club....in less then an hour and twenty minutes...this is the time in the 80's when Minneapolis was the Seattle of the 90's...
So the Suburbs, Replacements, Soul Asylum, Husker Du, Gear Daddies, and Prince....all playing at 1st Ave...all having some form of video on the super hep....need I say...MTV...
plus seeing the Police, U2, Pretenders, Rush, Tom Petty, Bruce, Simple Minds, The Fixx, The Dead, Bob Dylan, the Clash,Los Lobos....any other traveling show that came through the Twin Cities...discovering Jazz also during this time...
This was my escape from....big hair, bad keyboards, toooo many drums in the kit, full stacks of Marshall's in a bar where one 12" Fender amp would kill it....
Ok, it wasn't all bad, BUT running live sound and seeing as many LIVE shows as I could, in as many different venues as I could, standing by the sound board 85% of the time gave me my passion for music and GREAT sound...
Second...."but the 90's, as far as I can tell, just added unnecessary seriousness and sanctimony to the silliness"
Yea, I can agree with this also....I did love how Nirvana killed the hair bands with 3 chords, Pearl Jam 11 and Sound Garden I liked too...but their later efforts never captured the strong song writing of their earlier material....
My most influential album from that era was and is Pretty Hate Machine,
NIN....that album started the Industrial Genre....still blows me away that it was made on 1991 Mac....He made sounds that never existed...except somewhere in our memories...dare I say...My personal Dark Side of Moon.....
Third....the whole movie was an insult to my least favorite part of the musical 80's, compounded by casting....please....less movie montage is better for us as a country....it will save a child....
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Now...is that anyway to behave at rock-n-roll show??
Jim Morrison, Absolutely Alive
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reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
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"I'd like to own a squadron of tanks"
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
novel. Patriot Games would have had my vote were it not for the very irritating and TOTALLY unbelievable boat chase at the end.
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"I'd like to own a squadron of tanks"
I didn't mind the boat chase at the end, as much of the action and plot of Patriot Games was over the top. Same with Clear and Present Danger -- a bit over the top but that's the best way to watch Harrison Ford.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
to Patriot Games. Ditto Clear and Present Danger. IIRC, in the book the bad guy, who was a former Castro agent who turned on the regime, was captured and turned over to Cuban authorities at Gitmo to face what would presumably be a rather unpleasant demise. Whatever, I don't mean to pick em to death. All fun to watch and I own the first 3.
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I tried to watch as well
GACK!
steaming pile is right!
His being in a film is the kiss of death for me.
J.B.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
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My disbelief is that this thing got green lighted???
How insulated are celebrities with yes people, (this movie in particular more than others)...at some point they were in agreement that the cast could sing?!!?
Some sound engineer was thinking....I have polished this turd as far as talent allows...
And I have given Paul Giamatti and Bryan Cranston a pass on this one...
They got paid...
Zeta-Jones....way over selling the lack of decent material...
the Mrs. Mayor of Corn-pone LA...
Most forgettable Bobby and Suzie leads ever...
thanks
Mark
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Now...is that anyway to behave at rock-n-roll show??
Jim Morrison, Absolutely Alive
I saw HBO debuting this steaming pile of sh!te at 7:00pm. Remembering the reviews (awful) I skipped over it before Mrs. Nasty could see the info blurb with Tom Cruise listed. Sounds like the choice to avoid was wise.
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I have HBO...so it really did not cost me...other than my time...
If you like a sadistic viewing every so often...this has potential to rank in Top ten of all time bad...which is rare air...but may be well deserving...It just has so much going for it....
thanks
Mark
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Now...is that anyway to behave at rock-n-roll show??
Jim Morrison, Absolutely Alive
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