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In Reply to: RE: LOL.... posted by mkuller on October 23, 2018 at 13:42:46
Some things are a little more important than money.
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...the number of jobs created and economic growth numbers which are always better under Democrats.
It might confuse him.
The thing is though it is not worth your time, my time or his time getting into it. No one changes their opinion unless it directly influences them. Trump supporters who lost their job or had their farm get killed. Those people change their minds.
The economy is this big numbers thing. Who cares that the stock market rose in record fashion under Obama and continues under Trump. If you're too poor to be in the stock market it's just a number for some weird bragging rights.
Dictators want the population enraged at each other. Then when they lock children in cages ... well they're not us so who cares. Do you think a Trump supporter cares one wit about the kids in cages? If Trump gassed them all do you think Trump voters would care. They would say...well don't come in illegally if you don't want to be killed. That is what could come down the line. The other. Hitler systematically referred to Jews as rats and vermin making it easy for people to go along with exterminating them. Trump calls them rapists, snakes, animals and dogs. And the average trumper calls them lazy wetbacks in private. So trying to argue with a Trumper about ACA. It's not about that or any policy about money. It's avout getting back to the days of Rosa Parks. Make sure they sit at the back of the bus. Trump is a voice for that populace.
...no one ever changes their mind on the internet.
Especially Trump supporters who don't rely on facts or evidence, but fear and emotion.
You're not talking to REAL Republicans anymore - I can respect the REAL Republicans - I can disagree with them on economics but REAL Republicans like Dwight D Eisenhower - one of the best presidents was a REAL Republican.
I can respect them for being multi-dimensional thinkers who actually care about people. But that's not the monstrosity that has taken over. There is no - Democrat can marry a Republican these days. All the money blather is just that. It's now become - if you are a trump supporter - you're unfriended from facebook - you're a liberal - get out of my church.
And you can't have facts on your side when facts have become politicized. My friend is a religious fellow who believes the devil put dinosaur bones on the planet to confuse people. There are Trump fans posting daily that the earth is in fact flat and yes they are literally adament about it. Climate Change is a Chinese conspiracy (that was from Trump but you know where he gets all his information and it ain't from books).
You can't win an argument using a fact anymore. You can't win an argument trying to elicit an emotional response requiring people have empathy. And you certainly can't win an argument calling the other side names.
A racist doesn't think of himself as a racist either - and no matter what you argue - the whataboutism arguments will start. So if you say something bad about Trump - you will get "what about Hillary" - and on it goes. Each side preaches to their choir.
John Oliver on whataboutism. Critical thinking requires dealing with the specific issue and evaluating it - not defending your guy no matter. You never see a Trump supporter ever criticize him for anything. That's a problem.
Is that people get taken by his personality. Some otherwise fairly intelligent people love this guy and it's weird because he is usually so incoherent.I mean look at the 3 minute mark here where you ignore Trump and JUST read what he says. An iPhone auto-correct algorithm makes more sense than Trump.
But in the end the only winning going on is that Trump upsets liberals - mentioned in this video as well. The goal is to irritate the left. Score one for Trump supporters I guess. Us Snowflakes get bothered - although I always wonder if us lefties are snowflakes - why is it that WE are the ones who walk the streets where Muslims live unarmed - it's the Trump folks who own 20 guns and need them all the time because they're sooooo scared ALL THE TIME. Afraid of Mexicans, Afraid of Muslims, Afraid of Gay people - but the left are snowflakes - LOL. What can you do?
Edits: 10/23/18
...for him it's all about his big boy ego, winning and making more money for himself.
Screw everyone else.
Joe Scarborough thinks he won't run in 2020 because he has a chance of losing.
He'll just take all the money he's made being President and make more with the Saudis and Russians.
This is a Canadian article on the US - and basically the US has gotten to the point where you are two completely different countries now with virtually totally opposite personal and national values and it is irreversible now. Republicans and Democrats now feel the other is immoral and Un-American.And there is zero chance that will ever go back. And it doesn't matter if the next president is a Democrat - it's over. Now it is just how long the spiral and how fascist the country becomes - already caging babies and slaughtering Jews and people who say they're moderates don't seem to be speaking out against the ruling party.
This article is a Canadian perspective on the end of the USA as we all knew it.
Of course the people who need to read articles like this one complain when my post is 150 words so good luck. It needs to be summed up in 140 character tweets and bumper stickers.
Edits: 10/31/18
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