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In Reply to: RE: 'Vice' posted by Prisoners on December 24, 2018 at 18:40:42
He was quite the patriot so I hope they did him justice.
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Bush 43 is a more likeable war criminal than Cheney.
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"Quite the patriot," that's a joke, right? He's a draft-dodging, self-serving sonofabitch.
Can't wait to see this flick, tho. I would have gone last night but I was tired after all the Christmas activity.
...war criminals."But worse than that, and the big eye-roll of a twist involving its narrator, the film lionizes Christian Bale's Cheney, framing his story as that of an underdog-hero who cannily worked his way up the political ladder, and completely absolves Bush of any responsibility. As I wrote in our review, "this depiction of W. as a good-ol'-boy airhead, a patsy puppeteered by Cheney, will only further absolve him of responsibility for his disastrous presidency-just as we've seen in the media, who not only line the pockets of his former minions (see: David Frum, Nicole Wallace) but also have been hell-bent on rehabbing his public image, portraying one of the worst presidents in history-a man who conned us into war, mainstreamed torture, destabilized the Middle East, and sank the global economy-as a candy-passin', joke-crackin' eccentric artist." That it received the most Golden Globe nominations (6) of any film this year is truly mind-boggling."
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I just returned from seeing "Vice," and I think the movie presented Bush as he was: not really up to the job and easily played by experienced operators like Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.
Christian Bale was magnificent, the great Amy Adams even more so, and Steve Carrell was MUCH better than in any role I've seen him play.
What was interesting about the movie--and this won't play one way or another in awards-is the historical perspective it presents. It is amazing how many tired old Republican ideas from the Seventies and Eighties are still around and being heavily promoted, such as the unitary theory of presidential authority or trickle-down economics.
The film was about 15 minutes too long, as wasted time on a phony ending in the middle and other diversions. The Reagan presidency was treated as pretty much a cup of coffee.
But overall I liked it, and I don't really care what awards it receives.
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I think I've heard it somewhere....
...to the 1950s when white men ruled without challenge.
Like those times were a bad thing...
...white supremicists and alt-right folks.
It was a conference where there were 3 simultaneous breakout sections ever hour. I attended the one he spoke at with no more than 50 other attendees. He was a scream. Dude flat could speak. Luncheon keynote speaker was "W" when he was gubbenor. Not in the same ballpark but he didn't suck either
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