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I see your point.... I am NOT a big fan.... she took an idea born out of Madonna...

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In Reply to: RE: I agree with you on the "meat" woman.... posted by RGA on January 08, 2019 at 18:29:52

and put a "weird" spin on it. I do disagree with you about Madonna though... She is now in her mid 50's and has sustained a great career and is about to release some new music... We will see what happens. Sir Elton if you remember started out without all the Pomp and Circumstance and THEN morphed into the glasses and crazy outfits. But he has CRAZY talent as a musician AND composer. It ALL copied Bowie who was the original chameleon! Eva Cassidy I DO believe would have reached fame eventually... She WAS doing it her way until fate played a cruel and senseless card. To be fair to Gaga, I have not seen the movie. I probably will at some point. Being a HUGE fan of both Ms. Garland AND Ms. Streisand's, my resistance is that the story has been DONE! Still, I am curious....

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Madonna is 60 yo. - free.ranger 11:56:58 01/09/19 (4)
And still tactless / abrasive as ever.
- Now with a big, ugly butt and face . . . - Billy Wonka 13:07:48 01/09/19 (3)
  GaGa went in for all the costumes and makeup because she odd-looking if not ugly. One thing, GaGa can sing. Best National Anthem, ever.
  - Really? You think so? - TWB 15:56:20 01/09/19 (2)
    Sorry.... I think you're wrong about that! Granted there is a pound of makeup.....
    - That pound makes a difference . . . - Billy Wonka 20:59:40 01/09/19 (1)
      but bad surgeries and implants take more than a pound.
      - She's had work done. Oh yeah. - free.ranger 08:19:10 01/10/19 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: That pound makes a difference . . . posted by Billy Wonka on January 09, 2019 at 20:59:40
        
        Looking at photos of her through the years (which I hesitate to admit), you can see that she has had subtle periodic changes for the better. Now sporting a much less chiseled-looking face, due to skillful chiseling. IMO.
        
        The ass growth is padding, I suspect. That much mass leveraged out would thrown off movements of any kind. And she is consistent with health and workout regimes that rival Olympic athletes. Of course, she's also a whack job, so I could be wrong.
        
        Ol' Madge is known for going outrageous to draw attention. Lifestyle, sex habits, porno dance moves, abrasive comments, etc etc. It's the well-tested shock and awe treatment.
RE: I see your point.... I am NOT a big fan.... she took an idea born out of Madonna... - RGA 22:41:45 01/08/19 (4)
I can't imagine fans of Madonna not liking Gaga to be honest - Every pop act is pretty much going to copy in some form what came before - and that applies to all genres of music from Rock to pop to classical to jazz. Gaga is simply a much better vocal talent than most and perhaps all current pop singers. And she is a classically trained vocalist, pianist and can play guitar - and she writes her own songs.

I guess I never quite understood the major hate on for Lady Gaga because every interview I have seen she's been pretty sweet - she's good to her fans. I mean you can't really say that about a lot of artists - even Madonna who can be quite - shall we say nicely - tactless.

And even some of Gaga's nutty clothes were making at least some attempt at symbolism - even the "piece of meat" dress as commentary on the entire pop music genre and on Fame.

Lady Gaga is Godmother to Elton John's sons and the two are very close in real life. Elton is apparently preparing to do a final 3 year tour. I suspect Gaga will be in there as a guest. Anyway - I think she's a sweet kid.

She's a sweet girl - just don't get the hate for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylqQCwvC6Bw

This is for Elton
- https://vimeo.com/264269969 (Open in New Window)
- Gaga seems like a decent person when I've seen her interviewed... BUT she has saggy.... - TWB 00:33:03 01/10/19 (2)
  tits! NOT a good thing, for a girl her age.... Madonna has ALWAYS had a nice pair and has kept in great shape...
  - if you think that is saggy.......... - beach cruiser 01:39:16 01/17/19 (0)
    you definitely would be bummed about my scrotum.
    
    I would try to tone it up, but it has no muscles to work with.
    
    I defend all tits, well, those still above the waist.
  - if you think that is saggy.......... - beach cruiser 01:33:37 01/17/19 (0)
    you definitely would be bummed about my scrotum.
    
    I would try to tone it up, but it has no muscles to work with. I defend all tits, well, those still above the waist.
- The difference... - mkuller 08:17:49 01/09/19 (0)
  ...Madonna is a brilliant self-promoter.
  
  Gaga is too but championed girls and women who are different, maybe feeling outcast, and urged them to embrace their differentness.
  
  An inclusive message that many younger women need to hear.

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