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Please stop being negative. See here the USA DVD facts from CE

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Ole Lund Christensen

1997 349,000 players USD 171 million USD 489.97 average HH 0%
1998 1,079,000 players USD 421 million USD 390,18 average HH 1%
1999 4,079,000 players USD 1,099 million USD 270,00 average HH 5%
2000 8,499,000 players USD 1,713 million USD 201,55 average HH 13%
2001 12,707,000 players USD 2,102 million USD 165 average HH 21%

DVD was then the fastest growing CE product. Still it took 5 years to get 21%. see link
SONY PS2 came in 2000 with DVD player build in.

SONY PS3 have in less than a year done 1,500,000 units. That is more than all DVD players did in first 2 years.

In addition HD DVD have sold 150,000 standalone players and 150,000 for Xbox, and Blu Ray standalone players are at 100,000 units.

So as far as I can see, HD playback in total is doing just fine in USA compared to what DVD did. Mainly due to SONY PS3.

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RE: Please stop being negative. See here the USA DVD facts from CE - David Aiken 17:16:14 06/29/07 (8)
Interesting figures but I don't read as much into them as you do.

The big impoderable is how many PS3s are used for playing Blu-ray movies. Many may be used for games only, and some people may also use them as a stadard DVD player. There's no way of telling how many of those 1.5 million PS3s are actually being used as Blu-ray players and without that information you really can't compare the BD and HD player figures to the DVD player figures with any degree of reliability. Ditto for the Xbox figures.

What you've got that's directly comparable is a total of 250,000 stand-alond hi-def players around 1 year after initial release. That's not as good as the first year of DVD. Now some of the PS3 and Xbox sales do represent hi-def players so it's a fair bet that things are looking slightly better than in sales figures than DVD was after only 1 year, but it isn't by any means clear that hi-def player sales are really better than 2nd year DVD player sales, much less the 5th year figure you're claiming. I think you're really being overly optimistic by assuming that virtually every PS3/Xbox will be used as a hi-def player.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see hi-def survive and prosper, but I'm unimpressed by wishful thinking about what certain sales figures mean.

Instead of relying on sales figures for players, a more interesting comparison would be for number of movies released and no of discs sold compared to DVD. There you do have accurate comparability.

David Aiken
- You are correct - Jack G 06:35:38 06/30/07 (5)
  The sales figues are pretty useless as is. We don't know how many of the PS3s are used as BD players-guestimates are at most 20%, probably less. As you say, many if not most aren't even hooked to an HDTV. In fact, sales have been pretty flat, at a point when the numbers should be going up by now. To keep things in perspective, you can buy/order about 356 BD titles and 304 HD, while this week there were 466 new DVDs released.
  Jack
  - Yeah, except the games themselves are blu-ray, the PS store invites blu-ray movie trailer downloads - Jazz Inmate 22:26:34 06/30/07 (4)
    in addition to game trailers...it's all integrated. Sony did a great job not only with the blu-ray format, but with creating a media server, game console and movie player all in one.
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    - That only promotes the idea that BD is just the PS3 movie format. (nt) - Jack G 07:24:51 07/01/07 (3)
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      - At this juncture, such promotion would be far more successful than anything HD-DVD is doing - Jazz Inmate 09:35:13 07/02/07 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: That only promotes the idea that BD is just the PS3 movie format. (nt) posted by Jack G on July 01, 2007 at 07:24:51
        
        And as you well know, the fact that there are Blu-ray drives for your computer, standalone components for your home theater and games for your console goes a bit beyond PS3.
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        "I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
        
        Except the stand alones aren't selling - Jack G 09:50:25 07/02/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: At this juncture, such promotion would be far more successful than anything HD-DVD is doing posted by Jazz Inmate on July 02, 2007 at 09:35:13
        
        I can't comment on computer drives, but the Stand alone BD players aren't selling well-that's the point. They couldn't compete against the subsidized PS3 that sold for 1/2 the price or less. You know this. The only thing keeping BD alive, is the PS3.
        Jack
        
        Edits: 07/02/07
        
        Maybe if they bundle 'em with 10 free BDs...heeheee NT - Jazz Inmate 10:21:03 07/02/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Except the stand alones aren't selling posted by Jack G on July 02, 2007 at 09:50:25
        
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        "I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
- RE: Please stop being negative. See here the USA DVD facts from CE - Ole Lund Christensen 00:19:32 06/30/07 (1)
  please explain, what do I claim about 5 years?
  - Sorry� - David Aiken 01:19:51 06/30/07 (0)
    You didn't make a claim about 5 years. My mistake.
    
    David Aiken

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