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In Reply to: RE: That's the theory, practice is another matter posted by Jack G on July 03, 2007 at 05:27:57
However, the HD-DVD has an extra DDplus soundtrack, presumably because the Blu-ray is a single layer 25G which presumably didn't have the space. In this case, the HD-DVD's better storage allowed for a better soundtrack. Now if they had used a 50G Blu-ray disc, it would be an different matter entirely.
A better example might be "Nature's Journey". a music video which tries to maximize the available storage/bit rates for both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Both versions use VC-1 and DTS encoding; the Blu-Ray uses the higher bitrate encodes (lossless for audio). I expect the differences to be subtle, but perhaps noticeable in the better HT setups.
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According to insiders over at AVS, Paramount doesn't use the same encodes for both formats. Sony does the AVC for BD, and an idependant house does the AVC for HD DVD.
Jack
Since the Pirates movies were supposed to prove BD's extra space and bits gave a better picture than HD can *ever* get, BSM, pretty much shows that's not true.
I have little faith in RBfilms' neutrality. He's already saying that his next project will be BD only. He has openly bashed HD DVD because it limited the bitrate of MPEG-2 that he used for Chronos (thats why VC-1 and AVC are better), claiming that MPEG-2 was superior to all other codecs. Add to this the fact that he claimed he got no help from M$ with the compressing, and I'm skeptical that it will be VC-1 at its best. I'll probably pass on this disc, I was rather disappointed with Chronos.
Jack
PS. He'll be using HD15 and BD25s for this. I expect his BD to be better, since that is his preference-it'll be a shot at the HD folks that gave him grief for using MPEG-2 on Chronos.
POTC was a bad enough waste of money; Yes the PQ was VERY GOOD but not perfect; probably better than King Kong IMHO. YMMV.
I agree MPEG2 and single layer HD-DVD are probably a bad combo, but I certainly agree with RBFILMs' concerns on the bandwidth/storage capacity limitations of HD-DVD. And if it takes a lot of TLC to make sure a low bit rate VC-1 encode doesn't ruin the PQ, then that's another argument against the use of low bitrate VC-1 (and another partial dig at HD-DVD). They appear to have legitimate concerns about the use of HD-DVD IMHO.
Are single layer discs (Blu-ray or HD-DVD) that much cheaper than dual layer discs ? I'd expect single layer discs might be appropriate for 1 hour music videos (at least with Blu-ray).
I watched BSM last night. The movie was actually pretty good. The PQ was very good, but didn't blow me away-didn't make me go "WOW".
I read Richard's tirades over at AVS forum, an have come to the conclusion that I really don't like him. I won't go into details or name calling, but he likes to air his dirty laundry in public. I also think the VC-1 comparison will be suspect. I seriously doubt if I'll be buying any of his products in the future.
Side Note: I did order a Samsung BDP-1200, that should get here by next week. I ordered 4-5 movies from Amazon, and that will do me with regards to BD for a while.
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