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There is no stability in the hardware and software for home theatre. How many software and handware changes do the poeple who make these products think the public will support with their dollars? 5 channel surround, 5.1 channel discrete, 7.1 channel discrete, 740 i, 1080p, Blue Ray, HD- the list goes on and on. Some of us have bitten the apple one time too many. Products are brought to market before they have even been fully developed. My new Samsung BD P1200 Blue Ray player is brought to market needing two software updates to even try to play current discs on the market. My new Sony XBR 70 inch HD TV has audio and video out of synch and the Sony does not feel that it is a problem. Blue Ray does not support high fidelity sound (remember those words) on two channel (many of us prefer high quality two channel to the flavor of the day multi channel). The list goes on an on - and I am a person that really enjoys high quality vidoe and audio. Sad.
Follow Ups:
Where X = The number of years remaining in your life! In other words, we could all die waiting for perfection to occur.
Meanwhile, find your happiness amidst the chaos which is high-definition TV: At least it's here and it's real. I don't care for needing to update the firmware in my HD DVD player, but it does essentially live up to it's 1080p promise.
If it were stable, it'd never improve.
In audio, who cares how many multichannel formats there are as long as YOUR 5.1-channel system sounds good and you can buy software for it? I let the gadget guys pursue the formats with numbers higher than 5.1.
In video, if you don't want higher resolution AND some inconvenience, DON'T BUY IT. My Toshiba HD-XA1 needed updating; I spent c. $25 on a 75' network cable, plugged in into the player and my router, and it happened fairly quickly. I'm sorry your audio and video go unsynch'd occasionally. My only HD source is the Toshiba HD-XA2. I use HDMI to the TV and 6-channel analog to the all-analog, vacuumtubed, 6-channel preamp. My audio and video are never unsynch'd and always look and sound GREAT.
Now that you've finished your rant, go back and enjoy a hi-def movie. :-)
BTW, I think Sony is the Microsoft-type bully in consumer electronics, and ever since THREE 23" Sony monitors died, I sat as far away from Sony as possible.
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I'm not sure what to say, except that I agree.
> > > My new Samsung BD P1200 Blue Ray player is brought to market needing two software updates to even try to play current discs on the market < < <
Is there an easy way to see what FW you have without using the ethernet port? I'm going to need a 30-40' cable to get the upgrade. :-(
> > > My new Sony XBR 70 inch HD TV has audio and video out of synch and the Sony does not feel that it is a problem < < <
That is unfortunate, but then, Sony didn't feel the "green blob" was a problem either. Gotta love their attitude.
Jack
That's not a SONY problem.
That's an HD problem.
I see that sometimes on my 34XBR and have read that it is caused my
the fact that an HD signal sometimes runs a little then the audio signal
from the STB.
You don't see that with SD because the video data stream is shorter.
It's an HD timing issue. I think! I've read that hdmi 1.3 is supposed
to eliminate this problem.
Just another example of a spec being rushed to market before all the bugs are worked out.
We the consumer are being used as test platforms.
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:-)
Just kidding.
Oh wait! I miss those tapes...
Or I should say rarely-then its a broadcasting issue (a specific TV show may have it). Normally, I do not have issues with HD being out of sync, weather it by cable, OTA, or HD DVD/BD.
Or, my wife and I just don't see it.
Jack
We do see it on occasion though.
It's not enough to make me want to go back to SD.
Since we don't see it with Optical media. My wife is more sensitive to it than I am, and will not hesitate to point it out.
Jack
I will post it here.
I've read about it in S&V and have seen other web site postings
about this issue.
It's strictly a cable TV issue and I believe satellite also.
GTF
hard drive slows, or goes into a cache, and the picture then starts back up. On cable!! MSNBC is the worst offender, PBS second. I can see faces that smear when they move.
They are the very worst at broadcasting in HD.
Sometimes they are so bad we have to change the channel to their SD station
so we don't miss the program.
I've had to record some of their programs on the DVR using both the
HD and SD channels to be assured we will be able to see the program!
GTF
Digital signals are processed at the station and at your set. The more the processing the more the delay. You will see and hear this even if you use an antenna to get HD signals. Some at home processors outside of the TV can delay the audio to be more in synch with the video but at best this is an approximation. Sony says this is normal and not their problem. I know of no TVs that are trying to correct this within the TV.
around the level of detection which I was told was about 30 milliseconds. Obviously, if there is more processing there will be a longer lag. Some receivers and DVD players have a delay function. Most TVs don't. No, that's not Sony's problem.
Jack
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