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I have an approximately 4 year old Philips 30" HD CRT TV. It was their top-of-the-line model and consumer reports' top-rated model by a wide margin back then (in case that rings any bells for anyone). Of course, it's crap compared to new tvs I'm sure, but maybe most pertinently right now for me, it only has component video ins.I have been out of the loop and do not know who is winning the format war, anything about these connectors like HDMI, etc.
However, I do know that I have always felt that DVDs look like crap compared to even the non-HD recorded but HD broadcasted content I used to get over HD channels on cable.
My DVD player just broke and I think I'll get an HD-DVD player as long as it works with my TV.
Please tell me whether or not using component video with an HD-DVD player is a good idea and what the results will be.
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I doubt the picture quality though over component will be any better than what I'm getting now with my Denon universal and tosh 50" RPTV. If the video chip perhaps is of a higher quality then maybe so but I'm unsure how one can find out which chip is included in the player.
I keeping watching the prices of players but they will only continue to drop even more.
> > I doubt the picture quality though over component will be any better than what I'm getting now with my Denon universal and tosh 50" RPTV. < <It really depends on your television, I think. I've tried an HD disc player on all three of my high-def-capable TVs, two of which only have component video input capability.
There wasn't much, if any, difference between a Pioneer Elite universal and HD player on my Sony 51" tube RPTV, even though the Sony has been ISF-calibrated. I've heard before that a lot of the large tube RPTVs from several years back are really 540p with a built-in line doubler, not 1080i. If that's so, it would explain why there isn't much difference.
OTOH I have a 38" Loewe direct-view CRT TV, and at 1080i resolution, HD discs are absolutely amazing. There's a hugely noticeable difference between HD discs and any standard DVD, regardless of how good the DVD player is, even though it's "only" a 38" (16:9) screen. This is a TV that really does justice to HD source material.
Lastly, I have a 42" Loewe plasma TV with both component video and DVI inputs. HD discs and standard DVD upconverted to 1080i through the DVI port look very similar. The HD discs look slightly more detailed, but I suspect it's mostly because there are fewer compression artifacts. If I compare the same players via component video, the HD discs look substantially better than non-upconverted DVDs.
After looking at upconverted DVDs vs. their HD counterparts and not seeing huge differences, I can understand why a lot of people with upconverting players and DVI/HDMI-capable 720p and 1080i sets aren't rushing out to buy HD disc players and re-buy their DVD libraries in HD DVD or Blu-Ray.
In addition, even though HD media can look good on some TVs that are component video-only, there's always the issue of ICT looming in the background. Right now most of the content providers aren't using ICT, but that could change anytime. It would really suck to buy into one or both of the HD formats now, and discover in the next few years that new discs won't display at full TV resolution.
One's experiences with comparisons are always helpful. As you said though, it really depends on one's display.
I'm unsure exactly which resolution my Tosh 50" Cinema Series RPTV is really capable of unfortunately.
You can output HD DVD over component as well as upscale standard DVDs that don't have the flag enabled. HDMI is about DRM first and foremost and secondary to give J6P a one cable hook up. Quality of signal is 3rd at best for HDMI.
I have an Oppo 970HD, and the quality of some DVDs played via HDMI that I have watched recently is superb. One example is "The Departed." The quality is comaprable to an average satellite HD broadcast, but of course not as good as the top-quality HD satellite signals and the over-the-braodcasts that I get. Were these special DVDs? If I had played them via component output, would they have been as good, or does this "flag" thing come in to play. I haven't tried the output of my satelliet receiver in components. I just hooked up HDMI and it worked flawlessly, instantly, so I never messed with it. Is it worth messing with component input?
Because the few DVDs that I have watched looked so good, I feel little incentive right now to buy any kind of HD player. I don't buy many movies at all, but just rent them, so I feel I can wait until things settle down. DVD via my HD TV is just very nice. It's all a matter of choice.
Thanks for any help you can be.
Joe
I should have looked around on the web first. I'm not sure I understand it correctly, though. To put it simply, as I understand it, a flag-enabled disk won't allow the output of some higher definition signals derived from a DVD through an analogue connection like component video. This is to prevent copying. Is that correct? It also seems to say tha you can out put those higher quality DVD signals through an HDMI cable, regardless of whether the disc is flagged. But I also gather you can always output true HD recordings with a HD player via component connections and of course ordinary DVD the same way.
Joe
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=882744
When I look at the specs for seemingly all the "upconverting" DVD and HD-DVD players on the market these days, they always say something like "(via HDMI)" next to wherever they say it up-samples. This is accross the board from $65 DVD players that "upsample" to the HD-DVD players.
Do you get upsampled output with the component outputs too anyway? That seems to be what you are saying but I wonder why all the "via HDMI" stuff in all the specs listings.
HD DVDs will be fine.
Jack
1080i perhaps depending on one's display? I think most folks capable of just component connection at this point are curious! TIA!!
Upscaling cannot be done over component on 99%+ of all th conercial DVDs out there.
Jack
That is my understanding from what I've been reading. I can provide a link to some of the HD players that says that right in their specs.
There are some SD DVDs players that will upscale over component. There had been discussions on the avsforum about which player one feels is the best one to go with for that. I believe Bravo is one of the manufacturers that has this capability. Zenith also had a player that was very popular. I believe the model was DVB318 or something close to that.
Also, I believe there is a manufacturer that puts out a component to HDMI adapter. Now that's interesting!!
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