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It looks like that in recent weeks.
I see one well-known projector vender is offering a 720p Optima HD70 projector for $749 and then tossing in a refurbished Toshiba HD player for "free" in the deal.
What is going on here? Is this the beggining of the end for the HD format?
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The 3rd gen players were announced this week for Oct. debut. My guess is they want to get rid of 2nd gen. refurbs before then. Does a refurb qualify for the 5 free movie deal? It wouldn't surprise me to see the A2 go to a $199 clearance MSRP once the free movies is over and the A3 hits the market.
I could not careless either way. Although I do have the HD 42” plasma and the 57” HD CRT however, we watch our movies on a 110” front LCD projector.
In the future, I might change to a 72” plasma screen by then I might need the HD player but for now, I am quite happy with the results. Why fix it if it ain’t broke.
I'm in the process of upgrading from a 2 y/o Mitsubishi Colorview HC3 (1/4 HD) to a 720p (traditional HD) Panasonic PT AX100U. The latter is $1300, and there are less expensive 720p projectors (as low as $750), but there are some features of the Panasonic I like such as the high 2000 lumen brightness in my sunroom-located theater with ambient light as well as the 2.0 zoom (the HC3 was 1.2) which means that I will no longer have to have the projector out in the middle of the room. THe HC3 is quite bright too, but not the equal of the panasonic, and is fussy about where it lives relative to the screen.
To me the full 1080p projectors are still too expensive (> $2500) for whatever marginal improvement there might be beyond 720p. I have a large library of 480p DVDs (close to 200) and whatever I use needs to do first off a good job with those. But this opens the door for either an upconvert traditional player, or one of the HD or BD players. My hesitation on the latter stems from my belief that these two competing formats will not coexist forever, and its really the potential obsolesence of the movie library not the player in the "wrong" format that scares me the most about making a move. So that leads me back to the idea of an upconvert player except that I read that sometimes the scalers in the projerctors are already better at upconverting than anything that might be going on in a $50 DVD player labeled upconvert with HDMI connnections.
Has anyone else sorted this all out better than I have ?
D
multi data grade LCD projector which were made for commercial use which has an excellent progressive scanning capability. It’s an HD with a resolution of 720X1024. However it doesn’t come with the digital video input such as HDMI and DVI. Therefore, I’m using the component with great results as the video is very sharp with no hotspot to speak of to say the least while using the Denon 2900 as DVD player.
"Which format offers more movies that I really want to watch?"
Don't assume that today's Blu-Ray exclusives will eventually make their way to HD DVD or vice versa. Or that the failure of one format guarantees the survival of the other format.
I began by buying a Toshiba HD-A20 HD DVD player because I wanted an upscaling DVD player anyhow, and this one fell into my price range, so it was kind of a no-brainer. I found that I liked watching movies in 1080p high-def and felt confident enough to spend $500 on a Sony Playstation 3, so I can watch Blu-Ray movies too. Most of my actual movie-watching is currently done with HD DVD, but here and there have have been some B-D exclusives that I wanted to see, or sometimes the HD DVD version of a movie is checked out, and how nice to have the B-D alternative.
So there you have my solution: A little chaotic, but that's the future for you.
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David,
Blu-Ray appears to be the bigger seller at the moment, but not by the margins that Sony's PR department would have you believe ;-) I think folks are going to have to get used to having 2 hi-def formats to choose from.
I'm interested to see how much lower those prices go after the 3rd generation players hit the market and then how those new players sell.
The studio and retailer support for blu-ray over HD DVD is also noteworthy. It isn't just consumer support.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
BD is selling better than HD DVD in software, but remember, that we are still talking about roughly 1% of DVD sales. BD is out selling HD DVD by somewhere between 1.5:1 to 2:1. Not exactly a landslide.
Here's the sales figures as of last week in ratios of BD/HD DVD
* Week: 66/34
* YTD: 67/33
* SI: 60/40
Some people make a big deal out of the weekly figures, but its really not that important in the long run-they tend to go up and down quite a bit.
Both formats offer comparable picture and sound-both formats have really good, and really bad discs, with most being in the middle. Both offer about the same number of titles, regardless of the number of studios. There's lots of FUD, and lots of hype, that one should ignore The truth is, that both formats as a whole are doing much worse than expected. IMO, they'll both end up being niche products and be around for a while.
As for the projector, people are starting to shy away from 720p models, due to the fact that they are already obsolete. The "freebie" probably only cost $100 or less, refurbs are cheap.
Jack
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