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I went to Blue Jean Cables and they recommend component over HDMI. Is this just when using long cables or all the time?
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IMO, component is "safer" compatibility wise, (no handshake issues) but HDMI is easier to install.I have a 50' run of BJC Belden 7710 component cable in my main HT system; the stuff is the size of a 3/4" garden hose! Plus separate audio lines are needed.
Recently ran a single 50' HDMI cable (not BJC brand) from an Oppo DVD unit to a new Panny plasma in the bedroom...one smaller cable does it all, much easier.
"IMO, component is "safer" compatibility wise, (no handshake issues) but HDMI is easier to install." Agreed. OTOH, some upsampling players will not do so over component output and most AVRs with HDMI-inputs will not transfer those to component outputs.
Kal
I'm planning to get a PS3. It has one connection for HDMI. In the beginning therefore, I'm planning to run component to my TV and eventually run HDMI from the PS3 to an AVR with HDMI inputs for the sound. I'm assuming this is OK and I'll get best sound available on that specicic BD title.
The PS3 does have any analog outputs to run to an AVR.
You cannot use the DVD upscaling capabilities of the PS3 when running component. Upscaling only works with HDMI. I'm hoping for a good preamp option for HDMI 1.3 to be introduced. Looking to go from component to HDMI in the November-December timeframe.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=770354
I didn't read it extensively as of yet but I'm sure there is lots of useful info.
Thanks for the heads-up.
out the optical? Or am I wasting my time with stereo and my Denon receiver merely matrixing it? TIA.
Forget optical or Coax. You'll need HDMI capable player and Receiver (even then, I'm not sure HDMI supports fullbandwidth uncompressed PCM) and/or the source players 5.1 analog output fed through your 5.1 Analog bypass-capable receiver or pre/pro or multichannel analog preamp.
What you need is a High end source player with DTS HD MA and TrueHD decoding, plus quality DACs for the 5.1/7.1 analog outputs combined with, say a Switchman (or tubed might be better) multichannel analog preamp.
to my universal player, Yamamha 2500 (in for repair)
Go for it ! :0) Or you have this possible irrational attachment to $$$$$....
As for my system needs, I may have to choose between new pre/pro with awesome/robust bass management and/or source player with same and/or a completely new set of relatively efficient 5.1/7.1 speakers and/or 5.1/7.1 set of ampliication with tremendous headroom to support uncompressed 24/96 PCM soundtracks..
576 hi rez mentioned today above, Laserdisc, LP turntable- player and shaving foam heater. The only Switchman I found was for computer cables.
I gather that the OP's note was at least partially satirical. - But does anyone know (or expect) that Oppo will offer a true HD player (either Blu-Ray or HD or both) with SACD anytime soon?
Jim
I want one too. I know Sony ain't making one. A salesman told me they are NOT combining SACD with their better (or any ?) Blu-Ray players. When my current Universal craps out, I'm not sure there will be a new replacement available. At least one high end company is sitting out the HD format wars before they think about playing; I'm pretty sure they aren't the only ones.
And since Integra and Yamaha are BOTH at the doctors (different docs) Toshiba is doing m\c SACD and DVD Audio duty.
Well there is an LG player that has both of those but I don't think anything that comes out is going to have DVD-A and SACD too! Not even from Oppo! :)
Not via TOSlink or coax on any machine, off the top of my head. MCH analog or HDMI.
Kal
But I'll defer as I'm but no means an expert when it comes to this. I think one needs to use the 5 analog inputs for MCH or perhaps HDMI.
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You might have better luck at blu-ray.com where most denizens actually own the PS3.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
The Blu-Ray folks keep hammering HD DVD concerning storage capacity and bandwidth and possible impacts on movie releases. E.g. "30G is good enough" is not the mantra I'd want to try to defend.
Toss in a few discussions on comparative software sales and studio/CE support and it's starting to look a tad more bluish over there.
Noone has to defend it. BD has yet to prove the extra space gives a better picture.Paramount has different codecs for the different formats, yet the picture looks the same on both.
I beleive that the Prestige BD is 37G, but the import HD DVD is only 23G, and looks the same, according to folks who compared them. The BD mantra "more must be better" doesn't really hold water.
Check out posts 9 and 20 in the thread linked below.
enjoy,
Jack
Including a certain author of HD DVD and Blu-ray versions using different encodes. Of course, different people will have different agendas and points of views to "encourage".
I've personally seen stuff on VC-1 edge motions I didn't particularly care for. Whether that's a result of low bitrate encodes typical of HD DVDs or something else remains to be seen. Curious, they weren't so prevalent on Blu-ray discs with higher bit rate and/or different encodes. Of course, since most everyone has <50" screens, it might not be so noticeable. Good enough is good enough; Unless, maybe you are dealing with 100+" screens...
I might just have to invest in separate low and high bit rate encodes of same movie for serious A/B sessions (e.g. "Flags of our Father"). And/or actually spend serious time watching bits and pieces of different HD DVD and Blu-Ray movies to get a better "general feel"; especially now that "KIng Kong" (sans lossless track - curious since this is supposed to be a reference disk) is now in my current library.
But what happens when you've got a 120" screen at 720p? Twice the size at half the resolution? That can't be a good combination.
For the record, I like AVC encodes too, though I'm not sure about MPEG-2.
As far as a general feel goes, I get a the same feeling from both, but to be fair, I haven't seen enough of BDs since there are very few I want to own. HD DVD seems a bit more consistant, but the same caveat applies.
Outside of The Fifth Element, which is very good and comperable to Chronicles of Riddick on HD DVD, my other BDs are average. BTW, of the seven I have, two froze up on me and one won't play at all. So much for being more reliable.
enjoy,
Jack
But then again, I see "soft" images on the Big theater. I have to keep reminding myself it's much harder to make a movie look "hidef" on the 10000" screen than on the itty bitty ones we have at home.
Sometimes the directer wants a soft image. Sometimes people complain about that, bu the disc may be true to the source. this makes AVS's disc rating thread somewhat iffy, since we usully don't know accuracy to the source. There's alot of people over at AVS that complain when they see film grain. Many just want an idealized model of perfection that doesn't exist.
Jack
That's for darn sure.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
I'd like to see more direct comparisons between AVC and VC1 encodes of the same movies. Who knows, maybe AVC would really shine on HD DVD as well.
Especially since the gamers found it, and school let out. -)
Jack
Yes, if one's building a setup that will eventually have multiple HD and upconvert sources (maybe even feeding multiple HD displays), might as well go HDMI.
Right now I'm shopping for one (or two) stand alone HDMI switchers, prices aren't bad, but seems like there are still lots of compatibility issues out there.
> > I went to Blue Jean Cables and they recommend component over HDMI. < <
That's not surprising. They buy fully-assembled HDMI cables made by someone else and resell them. They buy pieces and parts and assemble their own component video cables. Guess which has more margin? :-)
How long is long? I am using a 50' HDMI with no issues.
They probably recommended component because of the length you require but you can also use HDMI extenders for longer distances. Why don't you ask them why?
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