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You think today's HD DVD players will handle triple or quadruple layer HD DVDs ?

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oscar

In Reply to: RE: "Why would you purposefully CHOOSE to limit yourself with the format providing LESS capacity?" - Why, ... posted by Audiophilander on August 21, 2007 at 11:26:36

I doubt it. They'd probably have to do a spec rewrite and hardware redesign. I don't think it's in the cards. They didn't plan for anything more than 30G for the movie application.

Blu-Ray can play the same game (e.g. 200G Blu-Rays anyone ?)

HD DVD also has a tighter restriction on audio/video bitrate which I strongly suspect has already compromised PQ/SQ on certain HD DVD movies.

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Of course not, but don't you think there will be issues - Jack G 05:39:10 08/22/07 (4)
when the video 1.1 encoded discs get played on 1.0 machines? Hell, there have already been some issues, and the new spec discs aren't even out yet. I expect alot of hiccups with BD playback down the road. Hopefully, FW updates will do the trick. We'll see.
Personally, I don't think triple layer HD DVDs will happen, nor do I care.
Jack
- I might have issues with the latest Blu-Ray discs because of the spec changes... - oscar 06:39:19 08/22/07 (3)
  but that's the price I knew I might pay for being an early adopter. Still, I'll be surprised if my current player will not be able to play any "next-generation" Blu-Ray or HD DVD discs.
  
  I fully expect to eventually replace/relegate to another room my current player with a more full-featured player(s) down the road. Hopefully, AFTER the format war is resolved, but that possibility just took a big hit.
  
  It'll be interesting to see how well LOTR extended versions w/ lossless audio fits on a 30G disc....
  - Me too - Jack G 07:08:13 08/22/07 (2)
    I expect a few glitches with my player too. Hell, I already have a few glitches. :-( Hopefully it won't be alot of discs, and hopefully, Samsung will upgrade the FW.
    I expect LOTR to be the studio versions.
    Jack
    - Firmware changes will be a fact of life for a while. I'm waiting for disc to arrive. - oscar 07:11:28 08/22/07 (1)
      so I can hopefully resolve an audio dropout problem I've occasionally had. Hopefully the transition from 1.0 to 1.1 will ONLY require a firmware upgrade (if that).
      - I hear ya - Jack G 08:53:32 08/22/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Firmware changes will be a fact of life for a while. I'm waiting for disc to arrive. posted by oscar on August 22, 2007 at 07:11:28
        
        I'm hoping for a FW upgrade so my player will be more reliable. I'm *hoping* I don't have issues with 1.1 discs.
        Jack
But oscar, neither of us know what design parameters are achievable. - Audiophilander 12:53:42 08/21/07 (0)
> > > "I doubt it. They'd probably have to do a spec rewrite and hardware redesign. I don't think it's in the cards. They didn't plan for anything more than 30G for the movie application." < < <
HD-DVD applications are constantly evolving; system upgrades are pretty much downloadable as well.
> > > "HD DVD also has a tighter restriction on audio/video bitrate which I strongly suspect has already compromised PQ/SQ on certain HD DVD movies." < < <
'Suspect', okay, suspicion is a reasonable response, but so far I've seen no evidence of compromised source material on my 1080P Sammy, much less heard it from any reliable non-biased industry source. Have you made any A/B comparisons of Blu-ray/HD-DVD performance, oscar?
As you know, I have no dog in this hunt save for my desire to own high resolution copies of my favorite films. The HD format which delivers my favorite films will remain my 'drug' of choice until a reasonably priced multi-format player enters the market and expands my options further.
Respectfully,
AuPh

Edits: 08/21/07

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