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In Reply to: RE: Receiver/processor choices for lossless multichannel audio like TrueHD? posted by 4season on August 21, 2007 at 21:53:07
But my understanding of it is the source player has to be able to decode it even if the Receiver supports the decoding (???) . Also it's not absolutely clear to me that HDMI will support full bandwidth uncompressed PCM (I won't have HDMI anytime soon so I haven't done my homework).
I've seen at least one rumor that Fox's delayed releases were partially because of their dissatisfaction with development of hardware needed to decode DTS HD MA properly.
Follow Ups:
"But my understanding of it is the source player has to be able to decode it even if the Receiver supports the decoding (???) ." AFAIK, none do this, at the moment.
Kal
Excerpt from DVD Talk regarding the audio on Fantastic Four for BD.
"Equipped with a English a DTS HD 5.1 Master Lossless Audio Track. Despite how appealing this track sounds, no player at this time, besides the Playstation 3, comes equipped with the ability to decode this audio. Once I get my hand on a system, I'll be sure to update this review with my thoughts. Despite this, we do still get a nice DTS track encoded at 1.5mbps".
If your player cannot decode the DTS HD MA portion, it should still be able to decode the 1.5Mbs DTS "core" track for 5.1 analog outputs. Or pass the DTS digital core to your Receiver via HDMI or via coax or optical digital outputs. the Receiver will decode it just like it decodes DD/DTS for DVD playback.
Even if your player will not decode DTS HD MA, you will still be able to hear a DTS soundtrack as good as anything available for DVD with any movie with DTS HD MA or DTS HD HR soundtracks. e.g. "Flyboys" sounds fantastic even though I can only listen to the DTS core soundtrack at the moment. It won't be as good as your lossless soundtracks but eventually I'll be able to decode this as well.
I'd have to pluck down the bucks to get a capable receiver not much longer after I buy a BD player. I would not be able to resist! :)
Or you can buy a BD player that decodes the advanced audio and has 5.1 analog out.
Jack
I want the better sound capability, me being an audio kinda guy. I do have multiple SACD players, a TT, tube and SS pre amps, etc. :)
If I get the PS3, then I need an amp with HDMI. I can go for one of the lower priced AVRs that folks on the avsforum have talking about and are utilizing with the PS3.
nt
Well, it seems there is some uncertainty about whether, in fact, the PS3 will do this (I do not know) but, in any case, I tend not to think of the PS3 as relevant.
Kal
"This system does not support output from the DTS-HD 7.1 CH. DTS-HD 7.1 CH audio is output from a 5.1 or lower channel".
Fox was the primary "implementer" and they may have given up on the idea in favor of uncompressed PCM or TrueHD because of apparently continuing hardware issues.
It will be on their next disc.
Jack
Not sure any other players will do so at this point.
Only the 1.5Mb/s DTS core of the stream is decoded at this time. The PS3 does have the necessary horsepower to decode DTS-HD Master Audio, but it's up to SCE to implement this feature. DTS-HD MA may come as soon as Q4 07 or may not be implemented at all depending on how much horsepower is used for the PS3 to be 1.1 compliant (remember, just about everything is done in software).
nt
The PS3 might have the horsepower but I don't think it's been firmly established Sony will develop the necessary code to make it work.
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