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In Reply to: RE: Desparate? No. But we all should strive to avoid MS controlling distribution of HD films posted by Jazz Inmate on August 23, 2007 at 11:51:05

>>>Sony loses out because of ingorant consumers<<<
So, now its the consumers fault.

>>>It's not just about Paramount<<<
True, but they may have realized, that the BD business model isn't working.
Just wait until Warner goes back to being HD DVD exclusive.

>>>If MS had their way, they'd control other studios too.<<<
As apposed to Sony, who has already started buying them up? You support that?

>>>Sony deserves to be financially rewarded and to receive certain exclusive rights, just as any company bringing a useful technology to market deserves the same. Otherwise, where is the incentive for R&D?<<<
So, you think they should be able to control the distribution of their competitor's products? Not to mention, they are shutting out independents.

>>>You want a marketplace where the richest bully can come along and dictate business practices in things like HD movie distribution,<<<
That's EXACTLY what Sony is doing. Thank you for admitting that.

>>>do you want a marketplace where the consumer can choose and help the best technology win?<<<
Yup, that's why I support the format war. Its giving us better quality products at better prices than anyone expected this soon.

Jack

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RE: My, You ARE naive - Jazz Inmate 12:53:14 08/23/07 (8)
> > > Sony loses out because of ingorant consumers < < <
So, now its the consumers fault. < <
Try quoting my whole sentence next time. But as for that, what would you blame on VHS's win over beta? Sony lost for idiotic reasons.
> > > > > It's not just about Paramount < < <
True, but they may have realized, that the BD business model isn't working. < <
BD is outselling HD DVD two-to-one and appears to be gaining increasing support (or at least it did until MS bought Paramount for $150 million). How in the world does that translate in your mind into "BD business model isn't working"?

> > Just wait until Warner goes back to being HD DVD exclusive. < <
It will cost MS a lot more than $150 million. But that's chump change to Microsoft. How can you condone this kind of business behavior?
> > > > > If MS had their way, they'd control other studios too. < < <
As apposed to Sony, who has already started buying them up? You support that? < <
Good point, but I repeat, Sony brings to market products that bring unique value to the consumer. I don't see that commitment from MS and above all, I want the consumer to decide what to buy, not MS.
> > > Sony deserves to be financially rewarded and to receive certain exclusive rights, just as any company bringing a useful technology to market deserves the same. Otherwise, where is the incentive for R&D? < < <
So, you think they should be able to control the distribution of their competitor's products? Not to mention, they are shutting out independents. < <
Nope. Each studio distributes its own BDs, including small studios like Tartan which is realeasing Oldboy on BD in early November.
> > > You want a marketplace where the richest bully can come along and dictate business practices in things like HD movie distribution, < < <
That's EXACTLY what Sony is doing. Thank you for admitting that. < <
Sony isn't making underhanded deals with studios. Microsoft is. I'm not sure why you think that's ok or are afraid to acknowledge it.
> > > do you want a marketplace where the consumer can choose and help the best technology win? < < <
Yup, that's why I support the format war. Its giving us better quality products at better prices than anyone expected this soon. < <
Well that won't happen if MS has its way, and you are supporting MS in this war.
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"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)

Edits: 08/23/07
- There you have it - the ever-popular Vast Microsoft Conspiracy(tm) strikes again! nt - racerguy 14:35:07 08/23/07 (7)
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  - Why do YOU think they have so much interest in a gaming console and the success of HD DVD? - Jazz Inmate 14:52:03 08/23/07 (6)
    All conspiracies, aside, of course.
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    "I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
    - Gee whiz, maybe it's because Microsoft competes with their much larger rival - racerguy 15:11:34 08/23/07 (5)
      Which is what a publicly-traded corporation is supposed to do. But that's probably way too simplistic a concept for your conspiracy theory. Never mind.
      - If that is simplistic, I'd hate to see complicated. I have no idea what you're talking about - Jazz Inmate 17:16:22 08/23/07 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Gee whiz, maybe it's because Microsoft competes with their much larger rival posted by racerguy on August 23, 2007 at 15:11:34
        
        Whose much larger rival?
        
        Would it kill you to stop being sarcastic--maybe that's why I'm having a hard time deciphering your post.
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        "I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
        
        You can't mean Sony, an electronics company, is a bigger rival of MS, a software company, can you? NT - Jazz Inmate 17:29:33 08/23/07 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: If that is simplistic, I'd hate to see complicated. I have no idea what you're talking about posted by Jazz Inmate on August 23, 2007 at 17:16:22
        
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        "I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
        
        Business knowledge is obviously not one of your strengths - racerguy 18:10:33 08/23/07 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: You can't mean Sony, an electronics company, is a bigger rival of MS, a software company, can you? NT posted by Jazz Inmate on August 23, 2007 at 17:29:33
        
        NTTAWWT
        
        having a decent conversation is obviously not yours. I've followed MS business practices closely NT - Jazz Inmate 22:30:41 08/23/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Business knowledge is obviously not one of your strengths posted by racerguy on August 23, 2007 at 18:10:33
        
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        "I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
        
        That's not what I said - but I do agree that this conversation is going nowhere (nt) - racerguy 06:07:45 08/24/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: having a decent conversation is obviously not yours. I've followed MS business practices closely NT posted by Jazz Inmate on August 23, 2007 at 22:30:41
        
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