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In Reply to: RE: Looks like my POS LG won't be able to handle BD+-infested discs. posted by oscar on October 03, 2007 at 10:09:10
Too many of these time-wasters in both HD DVD and Blu Ray-land!! Both camps need to BURN THEIR STANDARDS INTO STONE and stop mucking about with the copy protection or with adding features that should have been finalized before the player ever hit the market, because people come home with a new movie, and they want to pop the disk into the player and have a good time: They do not want to spend their evening updating the firmware in their players! This kind of tedious fussiness is why I gave up using Microsoft Windows.
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Still, best case is I have to download the disc, put an "image" on a CD/DVD??, and with some trepidation, put it into the player and hope there isn't a power glitch while the firmware update does it's thing.
It worked fine the only other time I tried it but I've heard if anything goes wrong, I could turn the player into a brick and wind up having to send the player to the manufacturer for repair work.
You burn an .iso image onto a cd. You can you Burnatonce program, which works well. Its that or hook a 25' cable from my player to my modem. This is a PITA, at least Toshiba sent me CDs quickly without having to ask, and even so, I've stopped upgrading my A1-I haven't had any problems, and I'ld rather not take the risk.
BTW, here's a mention on engadget
Jack
Could be a firmware version issue. But we still need a verdict on "Day After Tomorrow".
There's LOTS of complaints about it from LG owners. Yes, FW will eventually fix it. That's not the point-this shouldn't have happened. It was easily preventable, with a little testing and QC.
BTW, people are commenting that it does funny things on the S300 too-menu issues(?), though it does play.
It works fine on the PS3, proving once again that Blu-ray is little more than a niche format for the PS3.
Jack
I've another friend who will soon try it out on his BH100 (his pre/pro was taken out of commission by an (unrelated) botched firmware update). He had to update his PS3 player last night to get FFSS to play. And I don't believe Toshibas (or any other player) has been immume to the "need to update the firmware" itch.
Remeber what you said to me about doing homework. :)
And it's not semantics at all.
The PS3 gets both on a regular basis: upgrades in the form of scaling DVDs to 720p/1080i, upsampling CDs to 88.2/176.4kHz, new noise-shaping algorithms for audio, etc and updates in the form of patches for better internet gaming connectivity, downloading stability, video playback issues, etc.
I suspect current firmware won't cut it.
> > > Calls placed to both Samsung and LG customer support revealed that both manufacturers are aware of the issue, and that both are working on firmware updates to correct it. Samsung promised a firmware update within "a couple" weeks, while LG said an update is expected in 3-4 days. < < <
But LG told Highdef digest that they will have a FW fix in a couple days. Yes, the PS3 needed an update to play them, otherwise people get audio dropouts(?). I've been following this closely for the last 2 days.
I don't have the latest FW on my A1, nor do I have any problems, or plans to update it anymore. Toshiba updates were never *mandatory* to play discs, but more to fix quirks and access features(I admit some did improve the picture).
Again, this only detracts from the point, that these issues were both predictable and preventable if Fox actually gave a crap. This is extremely sloppy.
Jack
What I've been trying to find out is what difference there is with these BDs with the audio track versus what Fox released in the past. I don't know that BD+ makes a difference per se why the audio drops from time to time.
Apparently it's happened on multiple players. nothing a firmware update wouldn't fix....
Java versus +, I'll be the first to admit I wouldn't know about issues with either. The older Fox releases I've had no problem with the audio on those. I'm using HDMI.
Maybe now there is a handshake issue with HDMI? I think I'll try optical tonight (after the Damn Yankees game :)) and take HDMI out of the equation and see what happens?
its nothing that couldn't have been taken care of before they hit the streets. If it is BD-J, they have even less of an excuse.
Just wait until 1.1 discs come out. Luckily, the BDA is so disorganized, that they may not come out until next year.
jack
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