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In Reply to: RE: Solaris posted by wazoo on October 14, 2007 at 09:05:45
The last time, which I believe was about the third time I saw THX1138, we watched the recent re-release. Don't get me wrong, I really *do* like the film, it's just that I get a bit picky sometimes!
My wife has tried to watch the original Tarkovsky version of Solaris three times, and each time she fell asleep during the infamous drive to the launch pad scene which goes on forever. She falls asleep when a passenger in a real car too though!
Yes, I also prefer my Sci-Fi to be more based on the clash between technology and the human mind, than the clash with space monsters.
Have you seen Gattaca? It's been a while, but IIRC it might be one you'd appreciate.
Rod
Follow Ups:
'Gattaca' is a chilling exploration of eugenics. I liked it very much, but there are a few things about it that get under my skin. Absolute genetic determinism (being able to predict the day on which an individual will die of cardiac arrest) completely ignores the influence of one's environment. If I were born with a genetic predisposition to heart problems, whether or not I actually eventually suffer from them depends on how I live. Otherwise, the movie is excellent, with a solid plot and great acting.
I agree completely and am bothered by the fact that so few decent SciFi films exist. I was actually thinking of the remake of 'Solaris' (with George Clooney) - I thought it was very well done.
"Jazz is not dead - it just smells funny" FZ ♬
You said "I liked it very much, but there are a few things about it that get under my skin. Absolute genetic determinism (being able to predict the day on which an individual will die of cardiac arrest) completely ignores the influence of one's environment."
I think that point is taken up in Gattaca. Ethan Hawke's character does not accept the 'determined view' of his fate and the main action of the film is, if I remember correctly, set after his genetically determined use-by date has expired. I think one of the strengths of the film is that it shows that it is what we do with our lives that counts, regardless of any genetic strengths or weaknesses that we may have, and that it is sometimes possible to achieve much more than would be expected, and equally possible to achieve much less than would be expected, from an interpretation of one's genetic profile.
And I agree: Gattaca is a very good movie.
David Aiken
I think the same things that bothered you bothered me about Gattaca, but I just chose to just let it go.
The remake of Solaris got a bad rap I think. People who loved the original tended to bash it because it was, well, a remake and a hurry-up abbreviated version at that. People who had never seen the original thought the remake was slow!
They both carry the same powerful message.
Rod
That's the thing that separates the weat from the chaff in my view - when one doesn't keep getting hit with things to just let go. Don't get me wrong; I still really liked 'Gattaca' - I bought it after renting it and have watched it several times since. In many respects, it's the perfect scifi movie - great drama. In all other respects, the plot is cohesive and the concepts being probed are important and immediate.
Believe it or not, I have never seen the original 'Solaris' - a situation I need to redress (and I shall). I rarely care for remakes - they rarely capture the essence of the originals. I have no idea how well the version I saw mirrored its namesake, but I was completely absorbed by it. I suppose it is a love story in a science fiction film, but that aspect of it didn't smack you in the face - part of the charm of having it told via flashbacks. I loved the substory of the quirky crewmember (or is he?(Snow?)) and the actor's performance of it. I'm rambling though...yeah, powerful film.
"Jazz is not dead - it just smells funny" FZ ♬
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