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In Reply to: RE: This might be my holy grail player if... posted by Harmonia on November 08, 2007 at 18:00:38
Well, I live in Australia where we have PAL.
HD TVs sold here will handle both PAL and NTSC inputs and, although our TV system is PAL, the movie companies have occasionally been releasing movies here on DVD in NTSC for years, so I suspect TVs sold here have been able to handle both PAL and NTSC for that kind of period.
Check what kind of signals your display can handle. You may not need to worry about PAL to NTSC conversion. It may not do a perfect job but if all you want to do is watch the occasional PAL DVD, your display may do quite well enough meet your needs.
David Aiken
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My Philips HDTV doesn't display PAL. Sob. The vast majority of displays sold in US don't either.
It's not a big deal in Europe or Oz/NZ but here in the US you gotta take some time and trouble to find players that are all-region AND convert. No brick and mortar store I know of in my major metro area sells such a machine ready to go out of the box. The only one that did (Laser's Edge) closed its doors and went web only, dropping all hardware sales.
Most people in the US don't even know that other parts of the world use a system different from NTSC. I'm always getting emails from web-friends who bought a R2 or R4 DVD and wonder why it won't work in their DVD player. Imports, except among a few select groups of fans, are relatively rare here. It's assumed in this market that no one buys anything but R1, and the studios hang on to the inane region system. I bet if I asked a salesperson in a big box store here about PAL display he wouldn't even know what the heck I was talking about.
I effing HATE THIS. If I get lucky next year after I move, I may investigate a larger, spiffier, more versatile new display. Until then, I need my converting player for my imports. Word was the Us version combo Sammies will not be enabled for PAL> NTSC. I'm so excited one of my fave movies of all time, In My Father's Den is coming out on Blue Ray - German R2. I want it but have no idea what I'll play it on...yet. The R1 is coming out soon but not and HD version, plus I bet it's the edited UK cut. I'm not buying an HD machine til there's one that will get me down to ONE box. Ot at least two ;-)
Phooey.
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The issue isn't over whether the release was shot PAL, NTSC or SECAM and Region specific (1,2,3,4,5 or 0, which is non-region locked), because there are standard format players such as the Oppo which hack these very nicely so folks can enjoy films from anywhere they purchase them. Her grievance, unless I'm mistaken, is with high definition players which aren't capable of playing discs from other countries (up-converted standard definition or HD/BD).If these aren't capable of playing films outside of a specific region, a lot of folks may opt out or remain loyal to standard definition for a longer period of time even though viewing std. definition DVDs is limited to 480P (NTSC), 576P (PAL) and up-converted 16:9 of various formats and regions to maximum resolutions of 720P, 1080I or 1080P.
AuPh
I realize she's asking about a hi-def player (be it Blu-ray or HD DVD) that is capable of playing non-region-1 SD DVDs. Doesn't look like there's such an animal yet, even one that might be hackable. I was just pointing out that, as far as hi-def discs go, there's no NTSC or PAL (or SECAM, for that matter) to worry about--it's just the region coding that might prevent her from playing non-US hi-def discs. With the NTSC/PAL thing out of the way, I've noticed that a fair number of US BDs (the new 'Cars', for example) are region-free (indicated by 'Region ABC') on the back of the cover. This is quite a departure from the practice with SD DVD releases. I'm just wondering if she's absolutely sure that the 'In My Father's Den' BD that's coming out is a region B disc...
Russell
Another thing we don't have to worry about in Australia is DVD zones. Due to a court case here some years ago, pretty much most players sold in Australia are multi-zone right out of the box. I haven't noticed that they convert but they do play discs from any zone and the last two TVs I've had have both been capable of handling both NTSC and PAL so problems with zones have never been an issue for me.
David Aiken
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