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In Reply to: RE: Where do you come up with these strange ideas? posted by racerguy on December 05, 2007 at 18:07:17
>> A reasonable person doesn't become a fanatical format cheerleader. <<A reasonable person doesn't pretend that capacity is an irrelevant consideration in HD media. Your position is unreasonable and in arguing against my position, you have become a fanatic.
>> A reasonable person doesn't try to claim that their choice of consumer technology gives them some sort of moral superiority. <<
It has nothing to do with morality. Where do you come up with this shit? It has to do with logic. My position is grounded in logic. Yours isn't.
>> A reasonable person actually tries things out, and makes informed judgments, instead of declaring mindless loyalty and attacking anyone who doesn't mindlessly agree. <<
Thanks. You have just made my point and argued against your position. Choosing the format with greater capacity is the informed decision. So is doing research and paying attention to industry insiders like Michael Bay who has this to say: "I see every frame of my films over a hundred times before it is ever released. I know the lighting conditions I shot it and the result on the DI. I know the range. I know what the final product should look like - Blu Ray suits my films better."
>> The thing that makes you so utterly ridiculous, such an absolute laughingstock, is that you are arguing from a position of total ignorance with people who actually own and use both formats. <<
I hope you're capable of self-analysis after reading comments by Bay and others and that you can properly identify yourself as ridiculous and a laughinstock. Or do you think Jack G and avsforum brainwash victims are more knowledgeable than industry insiders who actually deal with film on a daily basis?
>> When your "facts" are dismissed, you start weaving fantasies. <<
That sounds cute, racer, but the backbone of my position this entire time has been that BD provides 20 gigs more capacity than HD DVD, and that is a fact, and it cannot be dismissed. Are you really incapable of getting your head around that concept? It sure seems like you can't.
>> You remind me very much of a notorious DVD-Audio bigot who declared SACD to be technologically inferior, and an evil corporate plot, and spent several years attacking it and anyone he perceived to be an SACD supporter, despite having absolutely no meaningful personal experience with SACD. <<
I adopted SACD early and never adopted DVD-A, so if I remind you of a DVD-A bigot, you're confused. The fact is that YOU adopted DVD-A.
>> He always had a stock set of "facts" at hand, and when those didn't work, he invented fables and wove conspiracy theories too. The parallels are uncanny. <<
If you want to be an idiot and pretend I don't know what I'm talking about, that's your prerogative. But you might want to listen to insiders like Michael Bay: "What you don't understand is corporate politics. Microsoft wants both formats to fail so they can be heroes and make the world move to digital downloads. That is the dirty secret no one is talking about. That is why Microsoft is handing out $100 million dollar checks to studios just embrace the HD DVD and not the leading, and superior Blu Ray. They want confusion in the market until they perfect the digital downloads. Time will tell and you will see the truth."
Just go ahead and cover your ears while shouting "la la la la", racer. That's all you're really good for anymore.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
Edits: 12/05/07 12/05/07Follow Ups:
> > A reasonable person doesn't pretend that capacity is an irrelevant consideration in HD media. Your position is unreasonable and in arguing against my position, you have become a fanatic. < <
A reasonable person doesn't create a strawman and keep attacking it even after the strawman has been exposed. Jazz, no matter how many times you attempt to ascribe this "position" to me, you'll still be wrong. If you keep setting up a strawman and knocking him down, despite the fact that he clearly is a strawman, you make it appear that you have severe mental and emotional issues, and problems with reality.
> > It has nothing to do with morality. Where do you come up with this shit? It has to do with logic. My position is grounded in logic. Yours isn't. < <
Jazz, again this is what makes you look like you have severe issues. I came up with this "shit" from your posts! You have repeatedly stated that you believe Blu-ray is the only way, and that anyone who doesn't see things your way is not only foolish and wrong, they are impeding progress and aiding a corporation that is anti-consumer. There's nothing logical about that position. It is the position of a severely disturbed person.
> > I hope you're capable of self-analysis after reading comments by Bay < <
Jazz, I don't give a sh@t what some Hollywood director thinks about consumer technology. He doesn't live in my house, and he doesn't use my gear, and he doesn't dictate what movies I watch, so I really don't care about his opinion. I do realize that you care very much, because fan-boys desperately crave outside validation of their fanaticism. Congratulations on finding some.
> > You have just made my point and argued against your position. Choosing the format with greater capacity is the informed decision. < <
> > Jack G and avsforum brainwash victims < <
I wonder how you think I could have possibly argued against my own position, when it's obvious to everyone (except you) that you don't have a clue what my position is. Jazz, I don't go by what Jack G says, nor do I spend any time at avsforum. I own and use both formats. So how can anything you continually scream about me be true? The answer is that it can't - but you obviously need a nemesis to battle in your twisted little fantasy world.
> > the backbone of my position this entire time has been that BD provides 20 gigs more capacity than HD DVD, and that is a fact, and it cannot be dismissed. < <
Jazz - no one disagrees that BD can provide more capacity. No one. No one disagrees that the added capacity is a fact. No one dismisses this. No one. It's really sad that you have deluded yourself into believing that anyone does disagree. You've developed an entire universe of outrage around a completely bogus supposition. That's what I mean about "weaving fantasies." This has been explained to you several times, but you dismiss the explanations, and stick to your delusions.
> > I adopted SACD early and never adopted DVD-A, so if I remind you of a DVD-A bigot, you're confused. < <
Again, you read, but you do not comprehend. The point is, Jazz, that like you he is a single-minded cheerleader and devoted fan-boy for his format of worship.
> > The fact is that YOU adopted DVD-A. < <
Absolutely I did. There was hi-rez music that I wanted to listen to available only in that format, so I did what any REASONABLE person did - I "adopted" it. Just as I adopted SACD, and HD DVD, and Blu-ray. Unlike you, I am more interested in the content than the format. That's the approach reasonable people take. Lunatics and fanatics get caught up in the hype around a format.
> > If you want to be an idiot and pretend I don't know what I'm talking about, that's your prerogative. < <
Jazz, I don't have to pretend about anything. Your countless raving, foaming-at-the-mouth posts are self-incriminating evidence that you don't know what you're talking about.
Get help Jazz, before your illness causes you to harm yourself or others.
No, you are not more interested in content than format. If you were, you would not adopt every format out there simply because there are a handful of titles of interest to you.
The only way to ensure significant HD content is released on optical is for consumers and the industry to get behind one format--preferably the best one (which you seem woefully unprepared to evaluate).
Take a close look at what happened to SACD and DVD-A. There is a lesson you could learn from that, but you ignore it.
Save your silly "get help" and "i'm worried about you" lines. It makes you appear dopey.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
> > No, you are not more interested in content than format. If you were, you would not adopt every format out there simply because there are a handful of titles of interest to you. < <
It astonishes me that you wrote this in apparent seriousness. I've seen you contradict yourself in the same sentence before, but this one is truly a landmark. Unfreakingbelievable!
CD and DVD have more content than all other digital combined. If content was your main issue, you would never go beyond CD and DVD. So there is more to it than that. The fact that you can't acknowledge exactly your reasons for being an "equal opportunity adopter" is not terribly surprising. Do consider my point about SACD and DVD-A, though I know how strong the temptation is for you to ignore it.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
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