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Just saw a Disney Video ad on TV, touting three Disney releases for the holiday season:
High School Musical II - available on DVD and Blu-ray
Santa Clause III - available on DVD and Blu-ray
Jungle Book - available only on DVD (no plans to put it on Blu-ray)
Why? Why put the crap on Blu-ray, and leave the good one out? For crying out loud, why? Jungle Book is something people would actually buy for a home video library. The other two are movies that families might rent once out of the $1 rental machine at McDonalds. No one in their right mind is actually going to spend $20+ on one of these.
Dumb. Truly dumb.
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I cannot speak to the artistic merits of these 3 releases, but in commercial terms, High School Musical 2 is the blockbuster of these three. It was the highest rated basic cable broadcast in the U.S. It's soundtrack is the 2nd best selling CD of the year, recently just passed by Josh Groban's Noel after Oprah recommended Noel. Whether people are in their right mind or not, this is going to sell far better than Jungle Book. This is probably Disney's hottest property at the end of 2007.
I think the poster's point was that Disney is not releasing it's classics on Blu Ray. If they release titles like Jungle Book, Snow White, Cinderella, etc... parents will buy them.
On the other side of the coin... perhaps the reason Disney isn't releasing it's classic cartoon movies on BD is because there is no significant gain in sound/video quality vs. standard DVD.
Take a movie like Snow White which is over 50 years old. Even if they remaster the original tapes to a native 720p or 1080p, will folks REALLY see a difference? Is it REALLY worth the investment and added cost of BD production? Any 5.1 or 7.1 audio will have to be interpolated from the original recording... which probably isn't even true stereo? Just a thought...
I suspect it's far better than 1080p IF the source hasn't already deteriorated and/or re-mastered on lesser-resolution media. Mono recordings? Can't do much with the audio. What you can do is load a re-release with a ton of features/PIP/IME/commentaries/games/etc.... I believe this is the track Disney will take once Blu-ray BD-J "stuff" starts to mature. After all, Disney WILL want to charge premium priced and they'll need to come up with value-added features for the kiddies to drool over.
To me, the reason Disney hasn't released it's "big guns" movies on BD is that the market penetration of BD players (discounting PS3's which most people don't know or care that they play BD movies) is still rather small. Hence a small market for titles that few are going to be interested in buying a second (or third or fourth or...) time. Those o;d movies up-sampled can look darn good, so why shell out $30 -$40 bucks for a movie you already own?
John Crossett___
It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.
I think they are being somewhat selfish/greedy and short sighted. To me, it looks like the studios don't want to release their big catalog titles unless it will be an instant success, and sell tons instantly. Personally, I think waiting for the customers first is a mistake, because they won't have any reason to change over. I think people will be more likely to adopt, if the see a bunch of their old favorites out on HD.
Jack
Personally, I think both will survive as hardware prices drop & folks buy cheaper HD players, with the studios rolling out more popular titles over time, but you & racerguy have good points. In addition to hot new releases there are a number of hugely popular franchises (James Bond series, LoTR series, Star Wars series, Raiders series, Alien series, etc.) that would probably make a major dent in sales and better establish high definition in the mainstream market, but so far high profile series and big Box Office features have just been trickling out. Releasing only third string titles and animation will not sell high definition to the general public.
AuPh
Espousing the trickle/dreck format war approach is likely to let downloadable video rise in popularity to the point where optical formats are practically dead.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
Would it not make sense for the CE manufacturers and studios to just gradually phase out regular DVDs and their players as they did with VHS? That way, adoption of HD media is assured. Hardware prices will continue to drop to the point that the average consumer won't mind forking out $100 for a dual-format player.
As far as the format war is concerned, some sort of alliance will occur between the warring camps. I really like the name "High Def. Disc". It could be HD DVD, it could be Blu-ray. It won't matter because multi-format players will play any kind of disc you insert. Movie studios would choose the disc format that best suits the film and the consumer would never know the difference.
Keep in mind the transition to HDTVs in the household is still ongoing. Maybe Disney doesn't think it's worthwhile to release their "legacy" heavy hitters just yet; especially if Blu-ray is still getting their profile sh*t together. They seem to put a lot of weight into the value of special features and providing value added over and above picture quality for their Blu-ray releases.
the porn industry has embraced the formats
Why would anyone want to see skanky people in 1080p? That could only hurt the porn industry.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
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Sox
The reason porn played such a great role in the adoption of VHS vs beta is because prior to that, no home video format existed. It created a rabid appetite for porn among consumers. Today, guess where most porn viewers get their content? That's right--online. No one is sitting around waiting for HD DVD or blu-ray to be adopted so they can add to their porn collections.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
.... "Why would anyone want to see skanky people in 1080p? That could only hurt the porn industry." ????
You say; "Today, guess where most porn viewers get their content? That's right--online. No one is sitting around waiting for HD DVD or blu-ray to be adopted so they can add to their porn collections." How do YOU know this?
Can you please provide evidence supporting your claim.
Lastly, what does the porn industry do with all he high definition discs it has produced? Using your stated logic no one will buy them!
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Sox
> > ...."Why would anyone want to see skanky people in 1080p? That could only hurt the porn industry." ???? < <That's the view from here, but if you like seeing every wrinkle, piercing, hair stubble and carbunkle, you'll have a different view.
> > You say; "Today, guess where most porn viewers get their content? That's right--online. No one is sitting around waiting for HD DVD or blu-ray to be adopted so they can add to their porn collections." How do YOU know this? Can you please provide evidence supporting your claim. < <
I could google to find figures on the viewing habits of porn fans if you really want me to, but it will have to be after I get home from work. Until then, I'll go out on a limb and say that your average porn fans (including those who were chomping at the bit for VHS 30 years ago) are not particularly discontented with DVD and VHS, and not concerned enough with HDTV to upgrade. Heck, the same can probably be said about most consumers.
> > Lastly, what does the porn industry do with all he high definition discs it has produced? Using your stated logic no one will buy them! < <
Beyond a small handful of discs, they haven't produced anything in high definition. Just filming at high resolution is not production. The cost lies in authoring and manufacturing the disc itself, which is much more expensive than standard DVDs.
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"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
...You seem to be under some sort of misapprehension, I don’t watch porn. I have never downloaded it not do I own any. I have seen porn movies but not in my home. Have you watched high definition porn?
You say; "Beyond a small handful of discs, they haven't produced anything in high definition. Just filming at high resolution is not production. The cost lies in authoring and manufacturing the disc itself, which is much more expensive than standard DVDs." So just how many high definition porn discs have been sold world-wide? Are you saying there is only a small handful been sold?
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Sox
I thought it was fairly intuitive that the idea of HD porn is silly...I've been using "view" as a sort of double entendre. I in no way meant to seriously suggest that you or I view porn...that was a reference to our "views" of what might be popular among porn fans. I still maintain that the idea of slobbering joe sixpack porn fan wanting to watch poorly produced, cheap productions on the latest HDTV set in 1080p is pretty funny.
> > So just how many high definition porn discs have been sold world-wide? Are you saying there is only a small handful been sold? < <
There are only a handful sold of any title on HD formats. I am saying blu-ray and HD DVD are not widely adopted and those who have adopted did so to see their HT pushed to new limits with impressive productions or perhaps their favorite films in 1080p. You're welcome to look at the sales rank of the few HD DVD or blu-ray titles (I don't think Amazon sells such things...you'd probably have to go to CDuniverse.com and check for sales rank).
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
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