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In Reply to: RE: No, they most certainly did not get it right. posted by jaiva on January 08, 2008 at 15:51:47
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with senior management at many Japanese companies including Sony and Toshiba.
I heard from both sides that it was the inflexibility of the past ceo that prevented a deal.
as I mentioned they have a pretty good relationship and Toshiba has a good hand in every ps3 that gets made.
a deal should have been made to work.
really doesn't qualify as
"regular contact".
YECHonyou
Toshiba had bupkas. That's why HD DVD is up the creek. Looks like Sony's former CEO was perfectly validated in his "inflexible stance". If you know your position is the right one, you should not step away from it.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
> > Toshiba had bupkas < <
It's truly sad that your rabid fanboyism has completely destroyed your objectivity. There are several features/technologies that HD DVD has that are superior to features/technologies in Blu-ray. Only a mindless cheerleader would claim otherwise.
It would have been better for everyone if the two camps had come to an agreement and found a way to incorporate the best of each format instead of engaging in a stupid format war. The end product would probably be better, and farther along in implementation and adoption. How can you not see this?
PIP/IME is a temporary (and dubious in my POV) advantage, at best for HD DVD; Blu-ray will eventually have an equivalent, and probably better implementation this year. Blu-ray has bandwidth and storage capacity advantages HD DVD cannot and will never match. This translates to higher video and audio bitrates (e.g. almost 100% lossless/uncompressed audio on Blu-ray exclusive studio releases, er... except for Warner) and breathing room for all the special features some people seem to crave (e.g. PIP/IME).
I don't expect Jazz to retain any sort of objectivity or knowledge, but I do expect you to do so. Please don't emulate the fanboy.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
LOL!
Then Oscar asked very politely and he still couldn't answer it. Maybe you can?
I'm not holding my breath.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
You apparently don't have a the foggiest notion about who said what to whom in which thread (here's the clue: your loose rhetorical query was first directed at jaiva, not racerguy; oscar's question came after that)! If you're going to carry blue pompoms and root for your home team the least you could do is to familiarize yourself with the names of players before turning cartwheels. ;0)
> > > "Maybe you can?" < < <
I could answer the question oscar put to racerguy even though oscar answered that himself, at least in part, by speculating that Blu-ray should eventually be able to best what HD-DVD currently does better now, but that isn't the point that I was addressing or that you're obfuscating.
AuPh
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
May I suggest you go back to the start of the thread and look for yourself, Lestrade; it's really elementary. If you can divine a question, maybe you can find a clue before the case vanishes from your grasp.
The Case of the Blue Bunk (as opposed to The Case of the Blue Carbuncle), where Jazz Inmate has the Stones, but none that anybody would want! ;0)
Cheers (a'la Jazz, rah! rah!),
AuPh :O)
Of course, racer couldn't come up with a thing. It would help if you could read. It would also help if you left these discussions to the adults and took your fascination with cheerleaders to your therapist, or at the very least myspace.com
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
... I'm sure that you cured them of THAT fantasy, big time! ;^D
AuPh
I can't be bothered.
I just can't get it through my head that some people get so emotionally invested in a consumer technology that they view it totally uncritically. My bad.
And frankly, it's hilarious that you can ignore the capacity issue and higher bitrates consistently delivered by BD, and then act indignant about HD-DVD's "superior features/technologies" that you can't even specify (for very good reason--they don't exist). I'll grant that HD DVD was quicker to implement silly bonus features like picture in picture and web interactivity, but Blu-ray is not far behind in such things and they're not particularly interesting, regardless.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
as you have pointed out many times there are powerful forces that want to bring about the demise of physical media so they can provide content on-line.
spin it anyway you want but this fact remains: the time Sony lost will never be regained.
Which is why Stringer made the comment he did.
> > as you have pointed out many times there are powerful forces that want to bring about the demise of physical media so they can provide content on-line. < <
When HD movies are downloadable, it will be advantageous to compete with that using a 50 GB optical format as opposed to a 30 GB format. HD DVD should die. Not Blu-ray. Stringer is just trying to bring the idiot HD DVD fanboys on board and cater to their ego by appearing modest. He knows he has the better technology and the better strategy.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
gotcha.
They look out for the interests of their company while negotiating with others who have different interests--all while trying to pretend the customer is the most important person in the world. Sony is hardly unique in this regard. But you already know this because you interact with many important CEOs in Japan. gotcha.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
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