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In Reply to: RE: poll: if it looked like a stand-alone player, would you buy a... posted by Joe Murphy Jr on January 12, 2008 at 13:05:05
There's no 5.1 analogue outputs which I'd probably need for my Arcam AVR350 receiver to get highest resolution audio, although if I looked into it it 'may' be possible to get uncompressed PCM via the digital output.
That's a side issue though, as for me to buy ANY BluRay player it would have to outperform the upsampling Denon DVD5910CI I currently use, and for many months now I've been wondering exactly how a decent BluRay or HD-DVD player would compare to it on a 42" or 50" screen.
As luck would have it, in this month's 'Home Cinema Choice' magazine a reader's system article explains that this particular reader bought a PS3 and compared the BluRay of X-men to the DVD upsampled on the Denon and in his opinion the DVD was superior so the PS3 is now resigned to being a games console.
That being said, the PS3 appears to be excellent value for what it is and if I didn't have the Denon I might be tempted, but does it have a decent remote or do you have to use the joypad?
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
Follow Ups:
I don't expect most of the moview I really want to own to be issued in any HD format in the near future. I also don't want to have a whole bunch of machines, each doing something different (I already have hooked up a VHS, Laserdisc, and DVD player). So, I am waiting for a machine that can do both BluRay and very good scaling/processing of DVDs (the latter being more important).
I have actually been told by a dealer to wait for the next top model by Denon. I am not going to jump now, even though it does appear that BluRay will be the winner.
"I have actually been told by a dealer to wait for the next top model by Denon. I am not going to jump now, even though it does appear that BluRay will be the winner."
Same here - Denon make the best upscaling DVD players so in theory they should be able make a BluRay player with DVD replay in the same ballpark as their dedicated DVD players, as no doubt they'll use the same Realta chips.
Will probably cost a packet though, but I doubt Denon will release a player which can't access the full BluRay spec in regard to audio and interactive content.
I think the Denon will be the first player worth consideration by serious video/audio enthusiasts.
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
The dedicated remote for the PS3 is $25 from Best Buy or Circuit City. I saw it earlier today for $15 at one of the "gamer" internet sites while I was looking for a component cable for my brother's XBox. Don't know how that compares to your locale as you're in the UK, right?
As to the SD X-men on the Denon vs the HD X-men on the PS3, that's saying interpolated 1080 from 480 looks better than true 1080 resolution. If I had to guess (and not knowing what display was being used, I do), I'd say that the display being used just "bobs" 1080 and all that can be had is 540 resolution. The size of the display is a factor as well because you need at least a 50" display to start seeing the difference at normal seating distances.
"The size of the display is a factor as well because you need at least a 50" display to start seeing the difference at normal seating distances."
The display used was a full HD Samsung 50" screen, but resolution isn't the be all and end all of PQ, otherwise a £100 DVD player would have as good a picture as a £3,000 DVD player and all HD-DVD/BluRay players would have the same PQ.
Similarly, the 50" HD ready Panasonic Viera is prefered over it's FULL HD brethen for PQ by HC magazine, but I also take your point (which I suspected beforehand) that up to 50" screensize, the advantages of HD-DVD or BluRay may not be obvious, especially when compared to the very best DVD players with broadcast quality upscaling.
If I were to get a projector however it would probably be a different tale as the demos I've seen with High Definition on larger screens have been mouth watering.
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
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