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appears just below the USA Today banner on the front page of the January 15, 2008 edition .
The story " Toshiba turns up heat in DVD war " appears in this editon's Money section , and can be found at :
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/2008-01-14-toshibe-hd-dvd-prices_N.htm
ZS KEKL
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The news is old as well, read before you post your drivel. Its over for DVD Audio and for HD DVD. You are 0 for 2.
I read the source of the information; it was less than a day old when posted. Are you sure that you're not looking at something else?
While I rarely agree with ZS KEKL (his format cheer-leading posts are the flip side of Jazz Inmate, AFAIC), the decision of Toshiba to slash prices by 50% and use cheap players to compete with SONY's high priced Blu-ray format across the board IS genuine up-to-date NEWS. One thing this does is force Blu-ray manufacturers to slash their prices in response or risk remaining mired in lagging sales as consumers opt for less expensive upscaling players and a selection of HD-DVD movies that currently still rivals Blu-ray.
AuPh
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Let's see what happens with HD DVD software sales the next couple of weeks.
... that I didn't already own in HD. The model purchased was the HD-D3, which only outputs to 1080I, but is perfect for our Mitsubishi DLP projector. I also discovered that it's eligible for 5 more free HD titles (from a selection of 15), several of which I would've eventually purchased. So, now I have a back-up HD-DVD player that cost even less than the discounted prices of the 7 free HD movies; that's a pretty good deal any way you look at it! :o)
> > > "Upscaling players (which also happen to play HD DVDs) have to compete with cheaper DVD-only upscalers." < < <
Toshiba's HD-DVD players seem to upscale better than most commonly sold upscaling players on the market at this price-point, so the competition shouldn't be too hard to handle, especially with the HD-DVD perks offered. Note: The Toshiba HD-D3 player's upscaling ability is in Oppo territory (the Swiss Army knife of players).
AuPh
PS: Oscar, we're still planning on that Saturday afternoon A/V summit on the 26th; hope you can make it.
I doubt this move will work either; especially since HD DVD just lost the biggest studio.
It might be nice that they're fighting back in the US but here in Australia it's a different matter.
No price cuts here. 3 models of player and the cheapest is $649 Australian less $200 Australian cash back offer. That's the equivalent of roughly $580 US less $175 or so cash back so let's round it and say $400 US for their cheapest machine. Their most expensive machine is $1399 Australian, roughly $1230 US, and no cash back. There's another machine in the middle with a $100 Australian cash back.
The PS3 is $699 Australian.
Compare that to your new $150 US price for the cheapest Toshiba.
They can't win the war by winning only in the US and they are doing their best to lose it elsewhere by making customers elsewhere pay through the neck and they're probably subsidising their US losses due to those price reductions with their inflated prices here and elsewhere. In fact they never even got into the race here in my view.
As I said, this changes nothing. It's more of the same old same old. Price cuts in the US before Christmas and BD still performed better. No real action on price here. Now more cuts in the US and nothing here. Nothing has changed at all.
There's quite a few BD players here around the price of the middle Toshiba to slightly more, and only a couple costing more than the top Toshiba plus they're doing similar offers of cashbacks or free discs and you can see the machines on demo in the stores but you don't see the Toshibas on demo.
More losing efforts.
David Aiken
If prices drop low enough it means that dual format players may have time to reverse the trend toward absolute dedication to one format; in the long run this should be great news for consumers! Dual inventory issues remain for B&M establishments, but if folks are able to play both types of discs because the hardware is reasonably priced, then stores like Best Buy, Circuit City, Fry's, etc., will be provided some relief; in any event, this will work itself out over time.
AuPh
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
(nt)
Even Steve Jobs said yesterday Blu-ray has won, and in the next sentence he said it doesn't matter because his downloadable movie technology with make it obsolete.
Unless idiots like you come to their senses--and quick--we are going to see movies go the way of music in terms of the public's buying habits, and we are going to see HD technologies go the way of SACD.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
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"...
"Every day the Blu-ray and HD DVD camps spend prosecuting this standards war represents a day lost in their race to remain relevant," analyst Krishna Chander at researcher iSuppli said in a recent note. "Amid the rise of exciting new digital media offerings like YouTube, iTunes and on-demand services, the window of lucrative opportunity is closing for both standards."
..."
for a minute that a single format from day 1 would have fared much better.
everyone here is always going on about players but that is missing the mark.
the shift will be brought about by recorders.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
And there IS a huge difference between upsampled DVD and HD DVD/Blu-ray on my screen. YMMV. I won't say the same for J6P.
Watch for the ceo of Warner to be fired in days and all the blu studios including Columbia to quickly jump ship.
than an HD DVD player. What consumer is going to want to invest in a movie format supported only by two (2) major studios ?
Wait until February to assess the fallout from the Warner decision. A couple of European distributor' have already switched (which means some options for overseas HD DVD purchases just evaporated). There's already some anecdotal evidence suggesting Retailers are "de-emphasizing" HD DVD.
I see the discounting more as a move to liquidate inventory while it still has value. I will be very surprised if HD DVD suddenly becomes the dominant HD player again, but stranger things have happened before: In 1995, I never would have guessed Apple would be the hottest tech company.
;0)
not the blurb about the article.
(nt)
My understanding is the answer is NO; which if true suggests the BBC won't be much of a player in HD media.
... it really depends on whether the BBC series in question were shot on film, tape or with HD cameras, doesn't it? BTW, if I'm not mistaken, Great Britain adopted WS broadcasting before the U.S.; that's why early into the transition some series shot in WS over here (like Dark Angel and Buffy, The Vampire Slayer) were released in 16:9 aspect ratio in GB, but only in 4:3 academy over here.Just look at BBC programming like Planet Earth for the level of HD quality achieved by the BBC. Whether that crosses over to dramatic series is another matter, but there are some pending releases on the schedule and I'd like to be able to see them without region blocking.
AuPh
that is, if the BBC actually uses Region coding... Do they ?
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Do I have to spell it out?:
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Oh no
I think the video guys arent as familiar with KEKL as the DVD-A frequenters are.
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