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I don't play games, but the Blu-Ray Profile 2.0 Spec seems to be gaing development momentum. The players which cost the same as the PS3 40 gig are all below that 2.0 spec. As I am aware the current $399 PS3 will be software upgradeable to that 2.0 spec, and the PS3 hardware can certainly handle whatever they throw at it for at least the next 10 years. I don't play games and it seems that the PS3 might just be the best "future proof" Blu-Ray player out there? Any thoughts? I am putting the HD-DVD player I have in the closet soon.
I might buy this PS3 just for the Blu-Ray capabilities? Is there any logic to this, what have your experiences been with a PS3 as a blu-ray player?
Thanks, I am a newbie to all this blu-ray stuff, I am mourning the loss of my now extinct HD-DVD!!!
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It's a pretty good Blu-Ray player, and Sony has handled the matter of firmware updates well--they aren't too frequent, and you usually get some tangible reward for your trouble, like new features. LOTS of computing horsepower thanks to it's Cell processor, and that means very fast load times--you barely see the "wait" animation in Ratatouille, for instance.
I think PS/3 is among the players affected by a buggy HDMI chip and may not be able to actually pass a TrueHD soundtrack via HDMI except by transcoding into PCM. Net effect should be about the same, but the "TrueHD" light on your receiver won't light up.
Sony's Bluetooth remote is kind of dopey (seems to go into power-saving sleep mode!), and I prefer Nyko's Bluewave. Once you have the IR receiver, you can control your PS/3 via a universal remote, but you need to remember which keys you've assigned to work as the Square, Circle, Triangle and "X" keys.
I expect that PS/3's prospects of being firmware upgradeable to BD-Live status are excellent, but if anything like HD DVD's internet-enabled features, don't expect any great added value there.
The best argument i have heard against the PS3 is that folks don't like how it looks. Even if I never played a game for the next ten years, the PS3 would suffice as a great BD and DVD player. Its features and audio/video capabilities are superb and it can function as a media center for photos and downloadable music, if that seems any more appealing to you than gaming.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
Picked up the PS3. It will do for the next couple of years, that is until the downloadable "true" HD movie devices make it obsolete.
I decided on the $399 PS3 due to the fact that the hardware is really "future proof" for the next 10 years or so, everything is software upgradeable. I only care about 2 channel, so it's not a big deal. Just upgraded the firmware and the movies look stunning!
DTS-HD Master Audio is supposed to be coming to the PS3. You might want to wait until that's settled -- one way or the other. You can also watch for the upcoming Panasonic DMP-BD50 (it may or may not have 7.1 analog outputs vs 5.1 -- if you need this feature -- and the LFE channel PCM issue with the BD10 and BD30 has yet to be resolved by Panasonic):
Be aware the PS3 doesn't have 5.1 out and no IR remote. If you like the PS3 get it, if not you may want to wait a bit for complete stand alone players to come out, and longer before they are affordable. The question is, are you dying to see some BD movies now?
BTW, HD-DVD players still make good DVD players.
jack
Saw one for $14.99 at Babbages. Handles all of the options to play a disc via IR on the PS3 and, if you'd rather use a Universal remote, you can probably program the codes from the Nyko.
i don't think so. Maybe Sony should include it free in the box.
Jack
Bluetooth is the future: IR is the past. If you're going to live there (the past), you have to accept the limitations.
You can argue all you want, but lacking compatibility is a flaw. If it wasn't, then the Nyko blu-wave wouldn't exist.
Jack
#1 $14.99 vs $24.99
#2 A Learning/Universal remote can be programmed from it, so money will be made from purchases.
Either one = $ for Nyko. It's not a flaw: it's an opportunity. Are the advanced audio codecs "flaws" because your current receiver can't decode them?
> > > Are the advanced audio codecs "flaws" because your current receiver can't decode them? < < <
If nobody's receiver can decode it, then its a flaw either in the design, or in the designer. :-)
Jack
Bluetooth = advanced audio codecs in the analogy. And based on your comments, the advanced audio codecs (Bluetooth) are flawed design because your receiver (IR) can't decode them.
Seems like the future can only be flawed to you: how depressing a mental state. Glad I don't look at things that way.
I assumed you were referring to DTS-HD MA in the advanced audio analogy, since we discussed it not long ago. If that wasn't your intention, my apologies.
As for bluetooth, whether or not it really is the future, only time will tell, but to make it incompatible with older technologies is just bad planning. If not a design flaw, a flaw in someone's thinking. Seriously. That's like when Sony's first stand alone player would not play CDs. What were they thinking? Backward compatibility should not be a difficult concept to grasp. The idea of Sony passing the problem on to the consumer is insulting and demeaning to its customers.
Jack
in the comming months.
These movies can keep you happy until the you buy a Blu Ray player with 2.0
I have the PS3 40GB, and it is only a good long term solution, if you want the game or computer functions.
The power use is much to high for a player only, 280 Watt compared to a 28 W player. In the summer it not nice to have such a heater running, it becomes expensive in electricity, and the fan noise is a problem in a quiet home.
If you use a PS3 for 10 years, 2 hours pr day, you will have used 2000 kWh. What does that cost you compared to 200kWh for a normal player?
I thought I might be willing to invest a certain amount of money into a Toshiba HD DVD player with 5.1 analog outputs (so I can listen to 5.1 TrueHD on the handful of HD DVD discs I own, but now I'm not so sure. But maybe the money is better spent on the Blu-ray counterparts whenever they come out, which could be years if ever.
OTOH, HD DVD discs on clearance sales could be too much to resist. We shall see.
100 of them. That saving on movies would justify buying the player.
I doubt they'd last very long at this price. The other possibility is the stores return the discs to the distributors and skip the fire/clearance sales.
The other no-brainer is a sub $100 HD-XA2, HD-A35, or Onkyo DV-H805.
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