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In Reply to: RE: The more you invest, the harder the pain when your last working HD DVD player craps out. posted by oscar on February 26, 2008 at 05:13:51
A consumer media format is not an investment. It is highly unlikely to appreciate in value - in fact, it's more likely to do just the opposite. These are ultimately disposable devices and media that are (or should be) purchased with DISPOSABLE income.
Nothing is forever. All formats die. All formats become obsolete. Expecting anything else is stupid. Proceeding with any other mindset is stupid. If buying a disposable consumer toy has the potential to cause you mental pain or anguish, there's something wrong with you.
So, if your concern is "investment," then you shouldn't buy Blu-ray discs and players either. After all, it's only going to last a few years before it's replaced by The Next Big Thing In Consumer Entertainment.
If you find no value in being entertained, then don't buy anything. If you only find pleasure in buying things that hold value, buy gold, not consumer electronics and media. If you want something that will last forever, buy diamonds, not consumer electronics an media.
OTOH, if you look at these devices and formats as a medium for delivering entertainment RIGHT NOW, and don't get caught up in "investing" or "supporting," or other such psychotic emotional nonsense, then spending some disposable income on something you can enjoy RIGHT NOW is not foolish.
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Formats come and go, but when a clearly superior format with better sales and better support, kills a clearly inferior format and even the sole manufacturer of the format's hardware throws up its hands, it's time to move on. HD DVD wasn't battling BD for years and years, with a significant library. This was a brief offering that lasted a year and took a drubbing in the market.
I'd say this "right now" mentality you advocate is what has led downloadable media to do significant harm to the quality of music (both technically and artistically), journalism and other important elements of society. Like it or not, consumers have responsibliity, and collectively our decisions have an enormous impact. It's nice to be entertained, but if you really have to rely on a few HD DVDs to feel entertained and can't recognized that it's a waste of money to spend even 1 cent on the format...if you can't get enough entertainment elsewhere, that's pretty pathetic.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
As long as there is no Blu-ray standard, I wouldn't want one. Even if you buy the "winning format" player now, that player may not be able to play discs released in a year or two without being upgraded. I think that this is real deception. My Sony CDP-101, about the first CD player ever sold, still works fine, and it will play any RBCD every released. My S-VHS machine still works fine and will play any S-VHS or VHS ever released, though I hardly ever use it. I have owned three Sony and two Toshiba DVD players, and none has ever given me a hint of trouble. I bought an HD DVD player for under $200 with 10 free movies. Knowing then what I know now, I wouldn't have, though, for obvious reasons. For reasons above I wouldn't have bought a Blu-ray either. I have no problem buying HD DVD movies, the few that interest me, for $15 or less. The ones I am interested in are at least twice that on Blu-ray, and some aren't even available at all on Blu-ray. Maybe my player will crap out before I get full use of it, but I doubt it. It also happens to be a superb upsamplig DVD player, so I now have something quite nice to tide me over until they can straighten out what Blu-ray really means and then force many people to either buy a new machine or get theirs upgraded.
And if people claim this "standardization" is no big deal, they don't read the postings here very thoroughly. I don't recall many posts about trouble reading HD DVDs, though I'm sure there must be some, but I've seen plenty about Blu-ray.
Joe
Like hundreds of thousands of other blu-ray adopters, I have never had one problem playing a blu-ray disc. Not once.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
And I continue to expect to play every Blu-ray disc I buy for the foreseeable future with my current player. I don't expect Blu-ray disc compatibility to be an issue.
HD DVD had their own compatibility issues early on.
You obviously have ben lucky or timely in your purchases so far, but I wouldn't bet that all future Blu-ray discs will play on your machine. In fact, I'd bet the opposite, and time will tell.
Joe
What a shame--he'll just be able to watch the movies in 1080p. That aspect of the format is not changing and if it's the movie you care about, you should realize that BD is worth adopting now.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
I can live without PIP, IME, internet connectivity etc. There's only a handful of DVDs and Blu-rays where I've actually bothered to browse through the extra features.
Most people spend money on movies, not formats.
Jack
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
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