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I'm enjoying Blu-ray discs on the Sony PlayStation 3. The discs load quickly and the picture and audio quality are great.
Unfortunately, the PS3 fan is fairly noisy and especially noticeable on quiet scenes.
Do all Blu-ray players have fans? If the fan is necessary, are there any Blu-ray players with "quiet" fans?
Additionally, I'm not up to speed on firmware revisions or features that are yet to be implemented. Are the current crop of Blu-ray players fully mature or are we still waiting for some bug fixes and features?
What might you recommend in the sub $1000 class TODAY? Or would you suggest waiting perhaps another 6 months or more for the final updates?
Thanks!
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As someone who has the PS3 as well, I have not at all been bothered by any fan noise, and it's not because I am deaf.
I know the thing is fairly tightly packed with electronics, and Sony makes a strong point about not letting the airvents get filled with dirt, to avoid overheating. But in reality, here in polluted Washington DC, it has been running just fine without any 'fan in overdrive' kind of issues at all.
C.
It might be that the trip point for the higher fan speeds vary among the various PS3 versions. I don't know. It's not an issue for me when playing games because the sound is usually up loud enough to drown out the fan. On the other hand, the fan is very noticeable during quiet movie scenes.
I'm getting my Logitech Steering Wheel and Gran Tourismo Prologue game this week! Can't wait! More ways to waste time... just what I need. ;-)
The linked chart includes discontinued, current and known future players. Regarding the profiles in Blu-ray, you need to determine what profile is relevant to you now and what you might want in the future. As for the audio, unless a player can decode the advanced audio codecs (DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD) and send the audio out the analog connection, you will need a player that can bitstream the new codecs and a receiver that can decode them. Otherwise, the lossy codecs and native PCM (which is disappearing due to the advantages of the advanced audio codecs) are the limit.
There are and will be inexpensive players coming to the market ($300 - $400, but not in the linked chart yet), but the best that they will be able to do is stream the advanced audio codecs to a compatible receiver, not decode them. Also not listed in the chart are 2 Pioneer players: BDP-51 and BDP-05.
Samsung builds junk -- that's CE 101.
I know there's one coming but not soon.
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OPPO...
They'll have one...someday, lol.
To wait - ot not wait, that is the question.
Interesting reading about the regiona issues. So far, all the European/UK BDs I want are R2 only, not available in US and the discs are currently issued region free. Possibly I can get by without hacks as long as the player converts PAL> NTSC.
I still have dreams of that one box solution.
You said "As for the audio, unless a player can decode the advanced audio codecs (DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD) and send the audio out the analog connection, you will need a player that can bitstream the new codecs and a receiver that can decode them." There is a third alternative: the player decodes the bitstream and sends an LPCM signal to the receiver for the receiver's DAC to do the digital to analog conversion.
David Aiken
Thanks for the addition.
A colorful eye chart for sure and it looks like a lot of work went into it. It appears that there's a modestly priced Sony player "that has it all" due out later this year.
Thanks Joe
The PS3 in a stand-alone case using the future 45nm process for the Cell processor (it's at 65nm right now) with advanced (quieter) cooling techniques keeping all of the features of the 60GB version and adding advanced audio codec bitstream capability.
No reason it can't be ready by Q2 09.
We are waiting for Profile 2.0 blu-ray players.
Samsung BD-P1500 is reported to have been spotted at Walmart, priced at 348.00. IIRC, this is profile 2.0. Whether you should buy it depends on your view/experience w/ Samsung products.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/13/samsungs-bd-p1500-blu-ray-player-in-stock-in-the-wild
I know you said today, but the Panasonic DMP-BD50 will hopefully be available this summer. It is profile 2.0. It's MRSP is 699.00, but if its free of bugs and does well at upconverting DVD (I assume it can competently handle blu-ray!), it may be worth waiting for.
Since you already have a "functioning" blu-ray player (PS2), hopefully you can wait till you find a satisfactory replacement. YMMV.
From what I've seen on a couple of threads at AVScience, there is either some unit to unit variation in fan noise levels with PS3s, some variation in owner sensitivity to fan noise, or some of both of those things. There are more than a few people reporting concerns about noise levels and more than a few saying they have no problem.
I haven't noticed fan noise while playing a movie but I occasionally notice it when a movie is paused, and I sometimes find that loading discs seems noisy. I tried taking noise level measurements of my system with everything except the PS3 turned on, and then with the PS3 turned on and playing a movie but the receiver muted. It was hard to get reliable results because I could not get a static reading for the reading with the PS3 turned off, due to variations in ambient noise levels inside and outside the house. I was using the RS digital meter and the reading kept varying between "Low" and 49-52 dB. I didn't notice any "Low" readings with the PS3 turned on and playing, and the highest readings were still around the 52 dB mark so obviously mine is fairly quiet and adds only marginally to overall sound levels. If you have an SPL meter, you may like to try a similar test.
I think BD players are much more like computers than DVD players, and the PS3 is definitely a computer because of it's role as a games player. As with computers some things run hot, hence the fan and I can remember seeing fan outlet holes on the back of at least one other players in the photos I've seen.
David Aiken
We bought a PS3-80 in February. I do notice it makes some noise on loading discs, but actual fan noise is not noticeable. It is on my Airport Extreme network, and whenever I update its OS there is no question in my mind that it is essentially a computer. The distinction between my iMac and the PS3-80 must be carefully drawn, the overlap is so great. Both are great. When I think of my first DEC PDP-11 lab computer with 8 K bytes of memory I rhat expanded to 16, it blows my mind. And remembering I used the string editor TICO as a word processor for writing technical papers makes me shudder.
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