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In Reply to: RE: ??? posted by Jack G on May 20, 2008 at 05:49:33
>> Its been known for quite a while, that not all PS3 owners know it is a BD player. In fact, about a year or so ago, less than 1/2 of the owners knew it was a BD player. <<
Yeah, I wouldn't trust that poll too much either. Regardless, the number discrepancy that David picked up on shows it wasn't those participating in the poll, but the pollsters themselves who were confused and were reporting the results inaccurately.
>> This has been discussed here previously. It is possible, though somewhat odd, that there are still some that don't know its a BD player. <<
It's possible that some folks conducting the poll didn't know, and therefore didn't know how to tally the answers or ask the questions correctly. The results, if not the entire poll, are flawed.
>> Why do you assume that the total number of players is PS3 owners + BD player owners? Since when do stand alone players make up 45% of all BD players? That's news to me. <<
It shouldn't be up for debate what the results of the poll were. The fact that the pollsters couldn't deliver straightforward results indicates there is a problem.
-------------Call it, friendo.
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> > > Yeah, I wouldn't trust that poll too much either. < < <
Big surprise. You don't trust anything that doesn't rave about BD.
> > > Regardless, the number discrepancy that David picked up on shows it wasn't those participating in the poll, but the pollsters themselves who were confused and were reporting the results inaccurately. < < <
I disagree. Unless you can prove otherwise, the pollsters are reporting what they are told, so if there is a problem, the people being polled are the ones in error.
> > > The results, if not the entire poll, are flawed. < < <
I'm sure you think so, but you haven't shown their methodology is flawed.
> > > It shouldn't be up for debate what the results of the poll were. < < <
Correct. Do you have sales figures showing that standalones are 45% of all BD players, including the PS3? Does anyone? Show me and I'll believe it. Otherwise, David is way off base.
> > > The fact that the pollsters couldn't deliver straightforward results indicates there is a problem. < < <
we are getting this second hand-an article about a poll. It sounds like you have issues with the article more than the actual poll.
Jack
"I disagree. Unless you can prove otherwise, the pollsters are reporting what they are told, so if there is a problem, the people being polled are the ones in error."
I have no doubt the pollsters are reporting what they are told, but what they are told is in response to a standard set of questions that everyone who was polled was asked. If there's a problem, it isn't because the people who were polled didn't answer the questions properly, it's because someone who designed the questionnaire didn't come up with a good set of questions.
If you do a poll and the results aren't clear, then the problem usually lies with the poll and the questions asked. You should be designing the questions in such a way that the responses leave no doubt as to what the data means.
David Aiken
> > I'm sure you think so, but you haven't shown their methodology is flawed. < <
Well, they asked their "what would you buy" questions without factoring in the $299 BD player, so the results are already out of date and don't reflect current market conditions. Sure seems like a flaw to me.
-------------Call it, friendo.
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