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I am upgrading my 10+ year old HT to a 5+ year old H/K AVR 525. It plays and sounds awesome with a DVD as a source but I cannot get a video picture using a VCR. My monitor-out is using a s-video to the TV (Analog tube for now). I have 2 DVD players and one VCR. The DVDs are using s-video with optical-out for audio. The VCR is old and just uses analog for audio and video. I have all the sources assigned, etc. I can switch from one DVD to the other no problem and can switch to the VCR but only get sound. If I take the video output direct to the TV I can get a picture (If I disconnect the s-video from the AVR 525). I tried using different inputs etc and can get everything working on any of the inputs except for the VCR video. What am I overlooking? I realize it is hard to troubleshoot on a forum but any suggestions would be appreciated. I would abandon the VCR except my kids have VHS tapes they still like to watch.
Follow Ups:
#1 Are you using S-video out of the VCR? Sounds like you are, but I just want to make sure.
#2 If you move a DVD player's S-video output to the input used by the VCR (which should be an S-video input), do you get a picture via the monitor out?
If "no", you either have an assignment problem or a bad input. If "yes", and the S-video from the VCR gives a picture when directly connected to the display using the same S-video cable that connects the VCR to the receiver (otherwise you could have a bad S-video cable), you have gremlins.
My vcr has only rca cable out for audio and video. The H/K will take s-video OR component (RCA) inputs from each source. I was using an s-video from the H/K monitor-out to the TV monitor-input. I just found out that if I use a component cable for the TV (monitor) rather than the S-video, everything works. So the analog signal is getting switched in the H/K to the component-out but perhaps not the s-video-out. The digital signals are getting switched to both outputs. It doesn't make much sense to me still.
The AVR 7200, AVR 525 and AVR 325 provide an exceptionally comprehensive array of digital and analogaudio and video connections, including wide-bandwidth component video switching, to pass the full bandwidth of HDTV signals with virtually no loss of resolution and the best possible HDTV image quality. All three models also feature multiple S-Video and composite video inputs and outputs, and all automatically simultaneously down-convert S-Video signals to parallel composite video output to simplify connection options in some home theater systems and assure video connectivity with TVs that only have composite video inputs.
In other words, it doesn't up convert composite to S-video, but it will down convert S-video to composite. From your description, it seems the receiver will also upconvert composite and S-video to component. Or do you really mean you're getting a picture on the display using a composite connectio? The reason I ask is because if your display has a component connection, why are you using the S-video connections from the DVD players?
For the record:
composite = 1 RCA (or BNC) cable, usually yellow in color
S-video = 1 4-pin DIN plug cable
component (the YPbPr version) = 3 RCA (or BNC) cables, usually red, blue and green in color
I was using the wrong nomenclature and causing confusion. I am only using s-video and composite (RCA) connections at this time. One of my DVD players has component connections and I may switch to them in the future. From the description from H/K it sounds like it will convert from s-video down to composite but not the other way around. Therefore the final connection to the tv monitor has to be a composite connection which is working at this time. I appreciate the help in trying to understand what is going on here.
dave
Glad to see you now understand your setup's capabilities. Don't feel bad about the confusion, as all of the different connections, compatibility issues and technical jargon is enough to confuse the CE manufacturers themselves.
Just remember that while even the S-video connection will give you a better picture than composite, if you can use the component connection from the DVD player to your display, you will get an even higher quality picture. If picture quality matters to you, you may want to connect the video devices directly to the display, thus eliminating the receiver in the video path. The receiver would then only be used to switch the audio. However, if you have others using the system, it may be best to evaluate a new "configuration" before making it permanent.
Your HK may be up converting the analog connection but not the S video inputs, If you still have your manual, it should state whether that is so or not. This was an issue on many earlier video front ends.
Stu
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