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In Reply to: RE: Blu-Ray, letter boxing and zoom posted by jimmyjames on November 24, 2008 at 11:55:40
Jimmy,
I am not sure I get why you bought a Blu-Ray player to begin with.
One reason, after all, is the picture quality, and integral to that is a disc where the film is mastered and shown in its correct aspect ratio.
You want to achieve two things at once, if I understand you correctly:
1.You want to ruin the original composition of the film you are viewing by chopping the sides off the wide-screen images to "fill" the screen.
2.You want to compromise the inherent extra resolution of a Blu-Ray disc by artificially zooming it in.
Again, why didn't you just stick with your regular, zoomable DVD player, where you could 'compensate for the retardation' to your heart's delight?
Speaking of which, I wish you would have had a chance to convey your feelings to the likes of Sergio Leone, Francis Ford Coppola or David Lean regarding their self-indulgence in choosing a wide frame for their films. It would have been a lively discussion.
CC.
Follow Ups:
I don't like black bars taking up 25% of my 60" screen that I paid hard earned money for. A playback of DVD or BD on a 60" display is not the same as seeing an epic movie in a theater be it home or otherwise where there are ways to deal with the aspect ratio that does not affect the enjoyment of the event. Letterboxing affects my enjoyment of video entertainment. IMO, I am far from a soccer mom or joe six pack slob for wanting to be able to adjust the picture to suit me. But you are right about one thing...I have been second guessing/having buyers remorse over my new Panny BD machine. Luckily I have another few weeks to decide whether to send it back or not. 720/1080 broadcasts still look better on my display than the admittedly one BD that I have and those broadcasts are via a 6 year old HD cable box.
"E pur si muove...And yet it moves"
I also prefer to view films shot in their original aspect ratio, black bars or no. But if you truly hate black bars that much, there's still a wealth of BDs out there that will fill your screen. Most documentaries, such as the outstanding 'Planet Earth' series and similar titles from the BBC, are in the 1.78:1 (16x9) aspect ratio, which is identical to your screen. There are a fair number of music BDs that are the same. And, there are many films that are 1.85:1, which will fill just about all of your screen--those dreaded black bars are pretty minimal. And don't forget that these BDs will still look (and sound) significantly better than their DVD equivalents.
Russell
Granted, there aren't a lot of TV series on BD (and I don't even know if you're interested in them), but the ones that are out do look great. I've got 'Prison Break' (seasons 1 and 3) and 'Lost' (season 3; season 4 is about to be released). And then there is the great 'Band of Brothers' miniseries, which was just recently released on BD and got a spectacular review (click below).
Russell
I just went to Netflix and dropped all 6 Disc in my queue! I can't wait to check them out on Blu ray!
Your TV must be a 4:3 display? If it is, I can see your point of view to some degree. You need a 16:9 to fully enjoy any BD or HD encoded movie. I agree with the others, either buy another TV or go back to enjoying the low rez DVDs. If your cable looks better than a BR movie...Houston we have a serious problem!
Im amazed you really want to ruin the film by forcing it to pan and scan. It just makes for a crappy 60" image. They should require a test to buy a wide screen, and those who are clueless about aspect ratios should only be allowed to take home an old CRT type display.
I'd rather have my clueless widescreen HD CRT over any, to date flat panel TV I've ever seen.
I am amazed that even today their are still so many people so clueless
about aspect ratios.
"OH look. I have black bars" "There cutting off MY picture". :-)
I used to be a diehard CRT fan as well, until I got my Panasonic 50" plasma. One set up properly, It outperforms any CRT I've seen by a wide margin. Black levels are better on the CRT, but thats about it, and not by much. Now when I watch A CRT set, I really appreciate the plasma.
When my SONY 34KV34XBR TV finally die's :-( I will replace it with a plasma.
That is unless one of the newest generation of TV pan out.
There have been a few design's that flopped.
Plasma seems to be the best at the moment.
you want to listen to horns. Maybe they should offer a similar tests for speakers and listeners.
"E pur si muove...And yet it moves"
Hummm…so you’re as clueless about good sound as you are about video. I probably shouldn’t be surprised.
The dreaded soccer mom syndrome (aka all movies should be pan & scan disease) rears its ugly head again.
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