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In Reply to: RE: With services such as Netflix why do folks feel the need posted by Wendell Narrod on February 03, 2009 at 06:09:09
It has to do with being able to watch what I want when I feel like it. Nothing more. If I had to justify it based on cost...don't think I could. But I do try to shop carefully, and I doubt any disc (except Criterions) has cost more than a couple tickets to a movie, most less...if you want to look at it that way.As to the main topic: wow, most people have been much luckier than me. I have noticed tons of BDs with lousy transfers. It is only a medium after all, they can (and do) put anything on it, the medium itself does not guarantee quality. That HTF thread is about problem discs, not really about subpar transfers. Unfortunately there is no "lousy transfer" thread. I suggest being wary of many Fox back catalog BDs. Many of the recent built-in upscalers can do just about as well with the DVD. To be fair, many of these were not that great transfers on DVD either, so the bar is low. I am being more careful about what BD titles I upgrade from the DVD now.
Edits: 02/03/09Follow Ups:
Here is a list of discs with Edge enhancement and/or DNR, along with descriptions and links to screen grabs etc. when available. I'm not sure how up to date it is.
...I have to tell you it sometimes a subjective call on cetain titles - just see the debate on Zulu. I don't like removal of film grain to satisfy modern tastes, but the current BD of Zulu is by far the best version of the film I've seen - I think it looks very good, despite the nay-sayers.
Also, I think tolerance for certain discs depends on the display size. I'm watching BDs on a 50" display - if you have a FP and 110" screen your preception may be different from mine. I admit the edge enhancement is something I can easily detect, but on the whole, most BDs are superior to their DVD editions, on the movies I have seen.
I can tolerate a very light touch of of DNR once in a while, but more often than not they are rather heavy handed with it. Its not just film grain that goes, but fine detail-skin textures. I honestly don't see the point except to make it more palatable to the video game crowd. This is a sad trend.
I guess you heard that Max Fliesher's Gulliver's travels will be altered when it comes out on BD so it will be 16X9 instead of the 1.33:1 it was made in.
Bothersome trends for the kiddies.
Jack
...having fought against full screen butchery of widescreen movies to fit 4:3 TVs, we now must fight against clipping academy ratio films to make them faux wide-screen. Butchery is butchery.
Original aspect ratio please!! This is nuts!
I just don't see what the problem is with films grain. If the best source is flawed, so be it. I don't care for the plastic looking skin that results. However, as I said above, some films folks have criticized, like Zulu, I think look pretty darned good, especially compared to the poor DVD transfers.
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