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In Reply to: RE: Akira on Blu-Ray: Wow, what (hyper) sonics! posted by 4season on March 01, 2009 at 12:20:24
I believe you may be attaching too much importance to 192/24 and amplifier circuitry. Don’t forget, you are watching a movie. The audio is in service to the film. The audio should enhance your enjoyment of the film, something that can be accomplished with modestly priced equipment.
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Never (before B-D/HD DVD) have I had such easy access to wide-bandwidth material, and I want to see what I can do with it. I determined that Harmon Kardon still boasts of low feedback, low TIM distortion and wide bandwidth designs (they mention 1 volt max at 100 khz, which seems like a hefty output), and their top receiver is around $700, which is less than 1/2 of what I had expected to spend. I have no HT amplification right now, so no pointless upgrades here.
As for my Sharp TV's built-in speakers: They sound a heck of a lot better than I thought they would, and for quieter movies, they work surprisingly well. But soundtracks like the ones for "Akira" and "Baraka" are simply too much for the little things, and I'm afraid I'm going to wreck them.
I've been growing my HT system for 10 years, taking turns upgrading the audio and the video.
My conclusion: assuming reasonably recent, properly functioning equipment, the sound is contributes about 70% of the enjoyment and the picture about 30%. The eye/brain combination is far more forgiving and computational than the ear/brain seems to be. A small, 720i set with a very good sound system is far more watchable than a 50 in set using its built in speakers, for example.
Try adjusting some of the TV settings, like gamma, or noise reduction or even sharpness. You may be hard pressed to see any differences in the picture or will quickly become accustomed to them. Try overdriving an amp and listening for any length of time.
Also note that there are hundreds of speaker designs but only a half-dozen or so of video display designs. Good audio is far more elusive than good picture quality.
Robert
It seems to me that movies have music and human voices.
Hey, that's what LPs, CDs, etc have.
It also seems to me that one's emotional response to a film is more invested in audio cues than visual ones. Consider a horror film. Watch it without the audio. It's not scary. Watch it with the audio. It's scary. Consider a tear jerker. Watch it without the audio. It's not sad. Watch it as the violins are brought up in the mix. It's sad.
Video does not cue you in to any emotion nearly as well as audio. The notion that 24/192 is useful in music only but not film is wrong.
I've never seen Akira, but I have no reason to question 4season's impression.
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I will have to agree with you and the original poster in your statements as to the improvement in audio quality while using the Dolby true HD or any of the new 24/192 sound formats.
For instance when watching Cloverfield and the various footfalls of this 300+ foot alien, and accompanying tanks firing away. Then jets, helicopters flying overhead etc. the low frequencies with my assorted reference subs were reproduced faithfully, yet movement and bass frequencies panning to the rear and sides had such a thick low bass tone I thought my Mirage OM10s had subwoofers in them! I never heard bass like this from my OM 10s.
Ive really never heard sounds so realistic and lifelike as it is in these new audio formats that accompany the Blu-Ray HD picture quality. Also the whole sonic picture seems to FILL in noticeably better than Dolby Digital or DTS, they're really good in steering sounds and panning around the room with no gaps, yes the New formats are EXTREMELY REALISTIC sound reproduction... in its full spectrum.
So yes IMO, the sound quality is a huge leap in the right direction and had me shivering while watching this film so realistic was the soundtrack. This is no SUBTLE aspect, very obvious to me. And I don't scare easily! The sound was a big factor.
I dont want to sound over the top in my rave but I truly feel the improved sound quality deserves and warrants these comments.
Regards,
/// Tim W. ///
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