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In Reply to: RE: Plasma Burn-In posted by Gmood1 on October 11, 2009 at 16:56:46
But, and this is a real question: why can no HTPC I've seen match even a PS3 quality for BD playback? And for $300 mind you.
Oh yeah, I'm sure there are some out there. I vaguely remember seeing a demo of one at a show. Its price was many times what a PS3 or BDP-83 (say) costs so I didn't pay much attention. Seemed more suitable for something like a pro development tool than something I would use at home, and since cost is of some significance...
I do like the idea though. And I do read some HTPC forums. Just haven't been impressed enough to want to dick around with it, and there is a LOT of dicking around required. My time isn't worth that much LOL, but a stand-alone is cheap enough and will be "junk" in a few years anyway, any PC even more so. I am a bit resistant to fooling around with computers at home when it's my job...and if I was in my 20s, say, this would be a lot more appealing and even a fun hobby (which it seems to be to everyone I know who uses an HTPC). I used to love fooling around with gear and building it, now I just want to set it up properly, once, and use it until it's time to throw it out...old fart syndrome.
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Picture quality is no good if you have a ghost image on the screen. lolLOL...that's surprising. You say you've never seen an HTPC match a PS3?
Mine uses a Sony BD drive. I think you'd find it difficult to see any differences at home.You'd be amazed at how good a ripped Blu ray looks playing off hard drive. I'm talking compressed down to 2 Gbs or even less.
Does the PS3 give you Meta data on the movie? Poster artwork,movie synopsis and a run down of the actors. As well as allowing you to pick actors out of one movie and the Media Browser pull every movie in your collection with that actor in it. Can a PS3 record over the air HD television and internet HD TV as well? Can you store your Blu ray movies with a PS3? At this very moment I have over 160 blu ray movies on HD. Another 150 plus ripped DVDs. All accessible from other locations in the apartment on the network.
I bought mine fairly complete, just adding a video card and the BD drive.
I see guys on AV audio HTPC forum building HTPC's for $300 or $400.
I was too lazy to do that . lolPlus you can play your music library from there as well and surf the net.
I'm pretty sure a PS3 works much harder to play a Blu ray than my HTPCs do.
With the addition of DVXA (DirectX video acceleration). The media intensive programs are off loaded to the GPU. So basically the video cards memory is more utilized. From a few test I've ran, I'm using 5 to 8% CPU usage when playing my compressed blu rays. Basically cruising along.
Start time is 2 or 3 seconds when I hit play button not 60 seconds like some of the current standalone players.
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what an HTPC can do. But it has to be better than a PS3 for $300 for playing BD. And not with further compressed video either, it's already REALLY compressed on a BD. And of course the HD audio. I just want a BD to look as good as it can, anything less than a PS3 isn't acceptable, not even a bit less (naturally, since I have the PS3 already). I always say, when people bug me (they expect I of all people would use an HTPC), that the PS3 *is* an HTPC. Except that it's not a PC LOL. So an A/V computer then. I do have Linux on it, but of course can't access any of the good stuff to do the A/V as "well" as Sony can. Putting Linux on a PS3 is about as far as I'll go dicking around with "PCs" in my own time. Maybe the PS4 will be more up my alley. The PS3 I think is a great proof of concept of what a pre-assembled tightly-integrated HTPC can do, so I'm convinced from that perspective.Edit: oh yeah, as far as that display "ghost" I claim to see, it is, according to other people, about as much physical reality as any other ghost. Maybe my memory is super-imposing itself from what I swear I did see once. Anyway, that bit of IR is normal for modern plasmas, it does go away very soon. I say I can see it when there's no signal into the display, which is no way to use an HT system anyway (but could be misleading in stores as plasmas are not "black" with no signal in).
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I hear ya cfraser. Well enjoy the PS3, there's nothing wrong with that. I enjoy my Xbox 360 as well(no blu ray). Though I normally use it just for goofing around with online games and playing music from one of the HTPCs. ;-)
Be well
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