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My son is in the military, stationed in Italy. For reasons that escape me, he got the bright idea to buy a flat screen TV. He is going to ship it home when he deploys in a couple of weeks. My question is: will this TV work in the U.S.? I don't think the voltage will be a problem, as adapters are available, but I am wondering if European TVs operate on a different standard. Will this TV work in the U.S. for 1)broadcast 2)cable 3) DVD or 4)games?
As you can imagine, soldiers don't get paid much, and I am going to be sick if he has wasted his money. Thanks for any advice!
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Thanks to all for the input. He was assured that it would work OK here, so we'll see. He is going to leave it with a buddy for the year he is deployed, so we'll sort it out when he gets back to Italy. He says the Army will pay to ship it back, but my concern is getting it properly packed so it survives. Thanks again.
... You need to know the precise make and model of the TV he has purchased. Without knowing that the advice is all navel gazing.
I have four TVs that will work with either PAL or NTSC, 50Hz or 60Hz and 110 volts to 240 volts.
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Assuming there is no difference in HDMI on either side of the Atlantic...
Any source with DVI/HDMI should work... ATSC tuner box, digital cable box, game console, computer, upconverting DVD player. For NTSC analog sources (cable, VCR, older video games), he could get an outboard tuner/converter box: search eBay for LCD monitor TV tuner, and there's boxes for under $50.
But, as that other guy said, he might have done better to buy one back home. Maybe he could sell his flatscreen to someone else in Europe and save the risk and hassle of shipping, and voltage and TV system issues.
Hi there
> You need to know the precise make and model of the TV he has purchased
Quite true.
If he bought the TV from the PX rather than a local dealer, then the chances increase that it will be an international model.
Besides analog PAL, there's digital DVB in Europe.
Regards
he could buy a player & discs for it to from there.they might be region 2 discs that can be found on ebay ect.I wanted a leann rimes dvd video hits they only sell the region 2.I bought an oppo region free player to play it.any way goodluck with it.
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Analog video sources will not work (composite, s-video, component, and analog-RGB). NTSC does not only refer to a US broadcast standard (now called ATSC as of the digital transition), but also specifies frame rate and scan lines (30/525 for NTSC and 25/625 for PAL).
Digital sources will be a crap-shoot.
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European TVs, videos, DVDs, etc. work on a different, and incompatible system compared to the US, which uses NTSC. Unless his flat screen has a provision for adapting to NTSC it's not even worth plugging in.
I think NTSC refers to a broadcast signal, no? Most likely, he will use a cable box and a DVD player + xbox or playstation. Any problem with these?
and how often the scan occurs per second. The European system is PAL, the US system is NTSC, which means not only broadcast, but also video monitors, cable, DVD, video games, etc. that are sold in Europe are incompatible with US TV, DVD, video games, etc. unless you have a region-free player, TV, etc. This is like trying to run a electric clock from Europe (240 volt/50 Hz) on US AC power - even if you get a transformer to cut the voltage, the frequency is wrong. to be brief, IT WON'T WORK. Trust me on this, I have a good friend who lives in Italy and I can't play any US DVDs there, or vice versa.
Many available here accept PAL or 50Hz-based anyway. I do agree that 50Hz is more of a potential problem than the voltage though.But I think the point is with American source devices, not ones meant for use in Italy. So with BD that would work regardless, same display requirements. With DVD or NTSC sources (cable/sat boxes, some games) it would depend on the display. For instance, my Pio doesn't care if it's a 50 or 60Hz based system for displaying. A display built in the last couple years has potentially quite a wider range of capability than an older one, so don't judge on based going too far back. The cheaper the display, the less flexible it's likely to be. The basic concept here is the timebase used for the input signals is not based on the line frequency (like on old TVs), the only question being if the chosen model allows both 50 and 60Hz.
Similarly you can get a DVD player that will output in a format meant for a 50Hz TV, but displayed on a TV running on 60Hz. Oppo for example.
If I was the buyer of the TV, I'd try to get out of it...unless he did a lot of research beforehand. Hard to believe it would be a "deal" based on how prices generally are in the EU compared to the U.S.
Edits: 11/23/09
As long as he's using an external source, everything should work. Assuming the TV has standard component/HDMI inputs.
I don't know if it matters if the TV is supplied with 50 or 60Hz AC, besides the voltage thing. Is it UL certified? Maybe it is a "universal" power model. Maybe it's a model made for "export" including the U.S.
I guess my comment is I would be *extremely* surprised if he couldn't have gotten a better price on the same/similar TV in the U.S. OTOH he might have got a great duty-free/miltary price and maybe the military even ship it for free...
Knowing my son's track record with "deals" I would not be surprised if he got screwed on the whole deal. I can only pray that he can get it shipped cheaply through the military, or this is going to be a disaster for him. Kids! What can I say?
Jim
I have some of this going on and have developed a little bit of knowledge about it, though not expertise. Your son's tv is likely a PAL standard tv, though it could be a dual standard tv, i.e. NTSC and PAL. Those are available here, too, but you have to hunt for them.
You can also purchase converters, too. How well they work with cable or the like, I have no idea. I have a relatively inexpensive Philips DVD player that plays PAL and NTSC out to our NTSC tv. Marantz DVD players until this year had the ability to play into a PAL or NTSC tv, so if he goes that route, he might be able to find a one year old Marantz that will convert for him.
Good luck.
Larry
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