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I have purposely not bought a BR player for several reasons. One
being that I was waiting for an affordable player that would
upscale SD DVDs decently. I currently have both a Denon 2200
and a 2900 DVD player. I also have a cheap Toshiba DVD recorder
that supposedly does upscaling. My Denons both look better in
480P mode(neither upconverts or has HDMI) than the Toshiba in
1080i upscaled mode. I would like to find a BR player under $500
that does a good job of upscaling since I have quite a few SD DVDs.
Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Bill
Follow Ups:
The oft-recommended OPPO is good but the latest Sony, Panasonics, Pioneers etc perform just as well, in some departments even better, albeit without the OPPO's Swiss Army kife capabilities.
Give us a list of your requirements for more precise recommendations.
;)
Picture quality on both BR and conventional DVDs is most important to
me. Some of the more advanced online/download features are of no
interest to me. I watched a few DVD scenes on one of the Pioneer
BDP-320s this weekend and I was impressed with the upscaling.
The slow disc read was a little annoying, but I could probably live
with it.
Excellent at upscaling DVD's, and fine picture quality on Blu-Rays. It has very decent 7.1 analog outputs for receivers that don't accept HDMI 1.3a audio. The only drawbacks are (1) doesn't have wireless reception of BD-Live content--you have to connect it to a router via Etherent, and (2) load times are relatively slow. Selling widely for just over $200 recently.
I also was concerned with how good DVD's would look on my HD system. Frankly, after watching a few Blu Ray movies with their uncompressed sound tracks, I no longer have an interest in watching any of my hundreds of DVDs.
We'll have to agree to disagree about global warming until the next global cooling scare comes along
I try to avoid watching a DVD of something where the sound is important when there is a BD. But I am impressed with the sound quality of the analog outs on my Oppo 83 player with Dolby Digital. DD sounds much better from the Oppo than my old Golden Theater processor which I have retired.
The title selection on BD is still rather limited, and some people have a wide range of viewing tastes. I have over 1000 DVDs, at least 1/2 of which will probably never be on BD. Not to mention, not all BDs look and sound fantastic. For many if not most people, how well a player upscales is an important issue.
Jack
don't you think?
-Wendell
I've had several hi-rez players including 2 Toshiba top-of-the-line HD DVD players that upscaled to 1080P; each had one of the 2 highest-quality uprezing chips. I view on a large screen, and I've seen no difference in the results of uprezing DVDs from the different players.I see HUGE differences in the video quality of uprezed DVDs, and I think the earlier the DVD release, the worse the resulting image is. Some uprezed DVDs...I can think of 'Outland', one of my favorite Sean Connery movies...looked so bad I gave the DVD away. 'Star Trek--Enterprise' looks excellent uprezed. The vast majority of DVDs look better uprezed to 1080P than in 480i or 480P.
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Edits: 12/10/09
For upscaling I can't recommend the Toshiba HD-DVD machine highly enough. I have two and don't own a single HD disc. They are exceptional and can be had dirt cheap now that HD-DVD is dead. I also have a cheap Blu Ray machine that does a nice job on Blu Ray but sucks at DVD playback.
-Wendell
One of the best out there.
--eNjoY YouRseLf!.....
I was a bit confused...is his display HDMI? If not, then he wouldn't get the benefit of the 83's superior DVD upscaling. (He mentioned 1080i in there and that's a common limit for non-HDMI displays...) If the display is HDMI, then full-speed ahead with the 83 for DVD (and that nasty BD too).
I have a Sony LCD HD TV with HDMI inputs. I was comparing the output
of my Denon 2200 in 480P via component video versus my el cheapo
Toshiba that does have upscaling and HDMI.
It is? I don't think so. I have three 1080i sets (LCD, Plasma and Rear Projection), from three different manufacturers, and all have multiple HDMI inputs.
-Wendell
I said it's a common limit for non-HDMI sets, going back long before HDMI existed. I didn't say anything about how common it is for HDMI sets. :)I do see your point, but this reinforces my main point: I am confused whether he has an HDMI display. I think he does though, but best to know for sure.
Edits: 12/08/09
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